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re: My thoughts

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rockfenris2005 05:53 am MST 12/29/06
In reply to: re: My thoughts - Smeghead 05:03 am MST 12/29/06



>
> > Don't you feel that "Still The Children" belongs? When I
> > heard that song, and read the lyrics for the first time, I
> > automatically felt "well, hey, this is the closing to
> > Neverland."
>
> Not really... Wendy's parents didn't leave her... they are
> still there... holding her too tightly. Peter never
> seemed to want his parents... You can make it fit because
> it is about growing up.... but it doesn't fit. The
> original Workshop ending had Wendy and Baal becoming Max
> and Emily in a great twist of Irony... one of Jim's
> updates had a yound Peter coming back to an old Wendy (as
> in the story) and Wendy singing It's All Coming Back To Me
> Now to Peter...
>
> I fear Jim is just using WPOMBHTM and PIGS and CHILDREN
> because he can't write new material but wants new songs in
> the show... That said it will probably be great anyway.


Jim mentions the Great Ormond Hospital. If you read "The Phenomenology Of Excess", it says that Ormond Hospital sent him cease / desist letters after he described his script in various interviews. That script, from what I recall, sounded a lot like "Neverland".

Maybe Jim has taken it an extra step further? Maybe he has decided to make it even more traditional to the J.M. Barrie play, not to mention the book, or at least the feeling of it which is totally different to that of "The Dream Engine" and "Neverland". Really, the only way you could see the '77 "Neverland" as Peter Pan is a bunch of Lost Boys, although they're teenagers (I see it more like "Lord of the Flies" for some reason :S Don't know why :S) and the name Wendy, plus Max dressing up as Dr. Hook

On Copyright US pages, there's mentions of all sorts of songs called "Peter's Reverie" and "Peter's Dream" or some such, and "Kid Gladiator" on this website also references Baal with the name Peter, although it's still very much a science fiction version. I dunno... I really think Ormond Hospital would have to bite their lip to let that happen, which is why I'm not totally expecting the '77 production. I don't altogether see how the songs are going to tell a story, either, when Jim's songs really only succeed as stories in of themselves... The ones that do succeed are the new ones that progress the story along, like "Tanz der Vampire"

I dunno. I have my doubts on this, aesthetically, as much as you do... but it's the big hit that Jim always wanted to do. I really don't know where I stand with it, or what my exact thoughts are, but I feel excited. I mean.. it beats Meat Loaf and Desmond Child, and Jim's finally back where he belongs





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