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Max 08:46 pm MST 12/30/06
In reply to: re: Yawn... - Marklbetya 07:45 pm MST 12/30/06

I think you need to differentiate between "law" and "right." A right is something that is inalienable and natural, perhaps given by God. A law is a human construct that can either uphold rights or violate them. For example it used to be lawful for Americans to purchase black people. Clearly such a law was in contrast to human rights. The American government didn't give the American people the right to free speech, that right is given by nature to all people and cannot be taken away merely it can be not respected. Thus Saddam had the same right to due process as the people he massacred.

> Actually, I think that when someone deprives someone else
> of their rights, the same laws they violated shouldn't be
> upheld to protect him.
>
> M
>
> > Perhaps I am just of an idealist mindset but I believe, as
> > the Constitution of my country states, that all human
> > beings have natural rights including due process of law
> > and that no person ought to be deprived of such rights.
> > Thus, just as much as I disagree with Saddam’s trial I
> > disagree with "what some poor suckers go through in an
> > Islamic Sharia court of law in that region." I also
> > believe that ones action cannot be used in an effort to
> > negate his right to due process, hence just because
> > someone deprived a person of his rights does not mean that
> > that person can be deprived of his own rights.
> > Interestingly the Military Commissions Act signed by Lord
> > Bush in October allows for evidence to be obtained by a
> > person who tortured other people even though it disallows
> > torture of other detainees. The absurdity of disregarding
> > due process in Saddam’s trial is manifest.
> >
> > > > Saddam's trial, like Nuremberg, sets an ugly
> > > > precedent for permissible judicial practices.
> > >
> > > I don't see the judical process that Saddam went through
> > > any worse than what some poor suckers go through in an
> > > Islamic Sharia court of law in that region.
> > >
> > > At the end of the day, we all know he was guilty, so we
> > > could all do this little dance called 'due process' but it
> > > wouldn't change a damn thing.
> > >
> > > Pud


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