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Bright_Eyes 10:41 pm UTC 06/23/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Jim influences as producer - pidunk 04:17 pm UTC 06/23/07 |
> So, the question I still wonder > about, having thought I'd find my answer already, is why > do you suddenly ask about what Jim's influences in > production are, and how he came by them? This summer I might be on the lookout for older music that I haven't heard before. When I like the general sound of a particular producer, I tend to like a lot of their other work too. The thread is to help me get ideas for what to try listening to. > And also, I > wonder, being as you are a listener, how you have > developed knowledge of the difference between the song and > the production? I've listened to a lot of pop music, and I sometimes hear different recordings of the same song. This gives me some idea of what the producer brought to the table, vs. the writer alone. > And, responding to your personal > statement, why would becoming a musician not be a > possibility for you? I suppose anybody can be a musician at some level of ability. I guess what I meant is that I'm not likely to do anything notable or professional with music. > So, you do play keyboards but don't consider yourself > proficient in them? In school I did about 8 months of beginner-level keyboard stuff, with a teacher critiquing once a week. Not sure how to describe the level I achieved, but it's the sort of stuff a lot of six year olds could probably surpass. > And you know you would need to learn > the music theory. Certainly more of it than I know right now. > But why musical arrangement, as opposed > to composing? Or just playing on existing arrangements? Composing music I've never tried. Same with playing on existing arrangements. I think there would be the same issue though. I'd need to have more training-skill-knowledge to make progress. Just speculation, cause I'm talking about how I think one would do, things I don't know how to do. > Producing records isn't about musical arrangement per se, > as I have learned, there is the arrangement and the > production as two separate parts of the project. When you > think of the recordings Jim has made, do you listen most > to the arrangements or to the production....and what are > you thinking of the production as being? I'm not sure exactly where to draw the line between them, particularly when Steinman has been credited for both roles. The qualities that seem to most make or break a Steinman recording for me are things like the distinctive piano sound and background vocal sound. I guess those I would more associate with the term arrangement than with production. This was a hard question for me to try to answer. When I tell somebody I liked or did not like the production, I'm referring to all the choices that had to be made other than deciding what the words are and deciding what the notes are. The term covers all the sound engineering, the coaching of the singers and musicians, arrangement decisions, and too much other stuff to list. This also was a hard question. | |
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