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Leesa (gallytrotter@mchsi.com) 04:04 am UTC 07/02/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Hello...hello....hello....(simulated echo sound) - pidunk 03:25 am UTC 07/02/07 |
Well, first off, I can't tell you how flattered I am to be confused with the description you give of this Thaya! Bloody hell, I should think not! I can produced multitudes to discount character alone--Christ, I AM offended now! Ya know, it's like I said in my last post--trust the universe. I can't tell you why I was such a bitch to you--I do apologise most sincerely for that--a fault I am working on...but you know it happened ultimately for a reason. You went down a path you wouldn't have otherwise. Shit like that happens all of the time. Susan, I didn't bring the path to you--the universe did, I was just in the way. And for whatever part I played I do again want to sincerely apologise. Whatever wickedness hurt you, I'm sorry for the role I served. I am truly sorry for being a bitch. But I'm not a liar and I'm who I say I am. And I'd like to see you be able to trust. Leesa > > > I'm going to think about everything you say. > I don't really like this all. What if, just looking back > to the stream of information, you were nice to me in 2005 > and I never had the impetus to find out who you were > because of that, and I would never found Leesa Magoch > Johnson? What would that mean to me right now? Finding > Leesa Magoch Johnson was alot like finding a font of > knowledge, because it gave to me insights of twists and > turns that I never imagined her capable of before. I had > an entirely different view of Thaya before then. Thaya was > simple, bumbling, clumsy, cataclismically social, > annoyingly intrusive, highly flamboyant, and erotically > obsessed, talkative, judgemental, and above all, barely > able to tie her shoelaces. To think of her as a creator of > a cult, an organizer in intrigue, and then a shifter of > identities, was like getting hit with a cold winter storm > in the middle of August. I was shocked. The 20/20 > hindsight was like a stabbing in the gut. Of course all > the signs were there, all the statements, all the > behaviors, and all the actions. Indeed, she did it all. > And she told me only a particle of the story as it was > being done. How was I to know? I just know that I didn't > get sucked into her machinery, and that is all I really > know about that. All the rest is what she has shown to me > in the past and the present, which is abominable, horrid > truth, built as the substance of lies. > > Thaya showed parts of herself and not the whole story, set > me up at times and places where things happened to me to > my detriment, and did it all by seeming to be this kind of > an innocent person who couldn't get it together if she had > to. She got it together, and that together, and the other > thing together and was nothing of what her image seemed. > That kind of experience puts a healthy level of skepticism > when dealing with the ways I found out. And, Leesa, though > indeed I see there are so many other Leesas in the world, > you are the one who brought this path to me. It was > because you felt the overkilling need to put me down and > criticise me in a hostile way that had no deserving on my > own part. Thaya when she wanted to had her ways of > scathing downputting that would be rivalling anyone's > language, and she had no problem hurting anything that got > in her way. The kind of person I learned of her to be is > not anyone I would have had a thing to do with, and it was > a miscarriage of social justice that she was one of my > closest friends in 1976 and for a period of time beyond > that. I trusted her, and I trusted her blindly. Did my > heart get broken? Did I have trouble trusting? Yes....and > no......each....because I have a heart, had a heart, which > was misused, and I had a trust, and that trust was > misused, and now, when I see the flags up and flying, I > have trouble trusting. If this all seems too hard for you > to take, why not be nice to strangers? > > > > > The city council, who votes on appointments here, has > > their own twice monthly meetings where such business takes > > place. We don't have alot of direct contact with them > > unless a situation arises or one of us has NOT been > > reappointed! Our agenda doesn't include reappointment > > items--that is found on the city council's agenda--and I > > rarely attend those meetings! We worry about the need for > > cat ordianaces, pet shows and whatnot. But you have a > > valid query--but such are the politics of small town > > government...oh, and me taking minutes of the commission's > > meetings and not wondering about my reappointment is > > called 'no news is not changed news' because it wasn't on > > our agenda! > > And no, Animal Control in and of itself is very different. > > I was chair of the Bull Terrier Club's legislative > > group--our focus was fair dog laws. As a concerned pet > > owner with experience working with city councils who were > > recodifying their laws, I got more involved with West > > Branch's recodification process which involved a > > tremendous amount of education. In 2002, our chief animal > > control officer, the then police chief, shot a dog (in the > > dog's fenced yard)which he thought to be the dog at large > > in question. It wasn't and all hell broke loose over where > > our 4 yr old dog laws went wrong. West Branch was under > > scrutiny of the entire state, so our little group was > > formed at the-then mayor's request. > > Animal control per se is not something that I'm really > > involved in to a meaningful degree--the education of > > cities in regards to breed specific laws, especially as > > they pertain to my breed is what I'm better versed in. > > Other people do animal control, I don't I advise our > > animal control here as a hobby. > > I do apologise if I have misled you--you thought I was IN > > /wanted to be IN animal control and was a PART-TIME Iowa > > resident. Do you have any idea how many people in Iowa fit > > that more specific bill? We have 2 other 'Leesa's in West > > Branch alone! As soon as gallytrot/ter was mentioned, hey, > > that's me. Sorry for confusion. > > And as for the phone number, oh good god--319 is the area > > code--that's an Iowa landline area code. You call, someone > > picks it up---have a little faith--odds are it's eastern > > Iowa. Again, why would someone like me put in the added > > effort to hide my damned location? I mean after a while > > you just have to trust...if I didn't want to be tracked, > > I'd list my cell number! Call Liberty Telephone in West > > Liberty, Iowa--I've had the same landline since 1984--why > > would I reroute it? Believe me--if that number rings, it's > > ringing in Iowa. > > I again don't have a clue about a Dennis Radar--he was > > involved with animal control in Kansas? I have most > > contact with the Bull Terrier Club of America, the AKC > > club affiliate--names in our club I can trace and > > recognise. Our breed club hasn't had tremendous problems > > with Kansas, say opposed to Ohio...but individual names in > > different states/cities don't really matter with the > > involvment I've had with this situation. I honestly have > > no connection with Wichita--been there once driving > > through on a family vacation about 40 years back---just a > > coincidence. Again, why should I lie? > > I'm glad you found the Yearbook--that was such fun. My > > 'Elvis' was placed with Andy Hamen (a pretty famous > > wrestler fron U of Iowa) and his family had such fun with > > that puppy! They never showed him, but they did dress him > > up and printed tons of stationary-type things with his > > image. Palm Press bought that wonderful likeness and he > > was such a marvellous breed ambassador. So yeah, I wanted > > Jim to see MY life's proudest work--my 'Bad Moon', my > > 'Bat'...and yeah, I did flirt shamelessly. I'll never stop > > loving Jim...I'm glad you found that site--the Yearbook > > was a labour of love. > > As for my driver's license, I just rather not have that on > > the internet. If I'm so clever as to be rerouting landline > > phone numbers and whatnot, I could forge photos on a > > supposed license posted online. I don't want some numbers > > out there--actually, who cares how I look? What added > > proof is that? I think there might still be an old photo > > on the West Branch Government site--or e-mail any > > prominent sounding person on the BTCA's site and ask > > who/what I look like! I do still look much as I did on the > > Yearbook photo. > > But I did give you about as much proof as to who I am/not > > as I can. I've been honest and positive. I deny nothing > > that is true and have elaborated willingly as I have > > nothing to hide. I only get my back up when you accuse me > > of something I know nothing about. > > Don't know what else to do... > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > Hey they updated it! I knew I was up for reappointment 2 > > > > months back, but I'm always the last to know--gotta learn > > > > it from the Rockman!! > > > > > > That's quite a shame that they didn't tell you in the May > > > 8th Meeting. Not only that, but it wasn't even published > > > on the June 12th Agenda. But really, do you actually have > > > so large and formal a burearacy that you can't know these > > > things? You've been on this commission already, and should > > > know that amongst the coffee klatch of you, you would have > > > continuity. And I find this far from your statement as not > > > ever wanting or having been in Animal Control, to the > > > point of a direct and known contradiction. > > > > > > > > > >And that's my phone as well--if the > > > > kids are off the line people can even call me and hear how > > > > boring I am in person! > > > > > > Phone numbers don't mean anything. I have an Ohio phone > > > number, and when I was in New York for a year I had three > > > phone lines set up for me and Cypherd, where he could call > > > me locally from Los Angeles, and I could call him locally > > > from New York. Phone numbers, there are such a thing as > > > service numbers, remote call forwarding, standard call > > > forwarding, switching stations re-routing, and all of > > > that. Just because someone can call you in Iowa, doesn't > > > mean you are in Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > >They keep me on because no one else > > > > wants to take minute notes at the monthly meetings! > > > > > > So while you are busy taking minute notes once per month > > > you don't know you are on the Commission? Hmmm.....what > > > does someone call that? > > > > > > > > > >The > > > > city website should also have us archieved. > > > > But no, not to split hairs or contribute to confusion, > > > > we're a community ADVISORY commission and none of us are > > > > employed in nor do we participate full time an animal > > > > control capacity. > > > > > > Well that's pretty standard for a small town commission, > > > but it isn't the ceramics club. > > > > > > > > > > This became a hobby of mine born out of > > > > my involvement with the Bull Terrier Club of America which > > > > was actively involved in combatting breed specific > > > > legislation in the mid 90's. I know an awful lot of > > > > people in animal control in Iowa and we come from pretty > > > > different places. I do rescue for the national club--I'm > > > > pretty specialised! I'm also involved in wildlife > > > > rehabilitation. > > > > > > One of those places Wichita? Did you know Dennis Rader? > > > > > > Thaya was three people removed from connection with Dennis > > > Rader, one person the man who she was very close friends > > > with named Jon, the second person Jon's friend Brian, and > > > Dennis Rader is Brian's younger but otherly named brother. > > > > > > > > > Between Wichita and West Branch is a bit over 500 miles > > > and it is less than an eight hour drive. > > > > > > The significance of Rader is multi-fold, not just his > > > infamy now, but his brothers' penchant for trouble, > > > starting in my experiences with Brian when I was > > > introduced to him in 1979. It was a horrid deal knowing > > > him, and Jon insisted he should join the committee for the > > > science fiction convention that I had founded, but Jon > > > placed him there without any particular job, calling it > > > "logistics". What those logistics turned out to be was > > > direct sabatoge of my involvement with my own convention. > > > During this time Brian told me of his two brothers in > > > almost the same conversation, or at least same location, > > > at one or two of the meetings, held at his own home in > > > upper Manhattan. He said of his two younger brothers > > > different things. The first he described was David > > > Westerfield, who became infamous in 2002, and the second > > > he described was Dennis Rader who became infamous in 2005. > > > Brian said he wants to cause the world as much trouble as > > > he can. Sick man. I could only suspect but believe I have > > > traced their lineage and other members of their family. > > > One of them seemed to marry into the family of one of the > > > men connected with starting up the assignment for making > > > the RH cult. It all is like a bad map, instead of all > > > roads leading to Rome, these lead to hostile and > > > imperialistic members of my family, through their own > > > associations. I would never choose to meet or know such > > > people. > > > > > > Dennis Rader was in Animal Control in Wichita. You say > > > that you met others in part of your National interests in > > > Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > One place you may not have stumbled on that alot of on the > > > > Rockman who were here in 2000 are listed and detailed on > > > > (at least where we were 7 years back)is the Jim Steinman > > > > Pacifica Yearbook that an very cool Australian fan put > > > > together. > > > > > > I saw that card. Very cute where you flirted with Jim to > > > the effect that you can't have him, etcetera. I found it > > > interesting that the first time I met Thaya, she flirted > > > with the boyfriend I was with, when I was with him, and > > > then told me I was being possessive. She had that way > > > about her, flirting the same as saying hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do a google and it should pop up. My photo's > > > > there along with Elvis, one of my favourite dogs > > > > ('Gallytrot's Guy at Graceland') out of my last litter > > > > from '93. It's still floating about and JD should link it > > > > if she hasn't already. > > > > > > Whatever photo you have there I will look for it again, > > > but at the present time I'm most inclined to accept the > > > photo that is on your drivers license with proof that it > > > is on your drivers license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta go chase the horses now... > > > > Leesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >nor was I ever/wanted to be in Animal Control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leesa, > > > > > > > > > > Here is something of a kind of problem that I run into. > > > > > West Branch, Iowa shows Leesa Johnson on the Animal > > > > > Control Commission with a term to expire in 2009. See > > > > > photo of site: > > > > > > > > > > | |
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