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re: Alternative Bat 3

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Bright_Eyes 11:37 pm UTC 08/24/07
In reply to: Alternative Bat 3 - The_wolf_with_the_red_roses 12:30 pm UTC 08/24/07

I like this topic.

If I had to put that title on some albums, BFG would become Bat2 and Dead Ringer would become Bat3, because that was when Steinman's writing style was closer to the Bat stuff. But for that to work Meat has to sing the BFG album.

Aside from that possibility, I don't think there's any material that is a true sequel to the Bat album, whether it's the 1993 album, Desmond's Bat3, or the Steinman Bat3 that he said he wanted to make.

I think re-using the Bat title is really just a marketing gimmick, whether it's Jim doing it or Desmond Child doing it. I think when Bat2 was made, Jim and Meat were both desperate and resorted to re-using the old title because they were desperate. I don't believe the story that Jim envisioned a trilogy. If he had, I think he would have called BFG and DR, Bat 2 and Bat3. I think that story about envisioning a trilogy in the first place was one of his many dishonest-but-harmless marketing/promotional anecdotes.

I think Meat is very right when he says that songs like NATL, Children and BTWA are not at all the right style for Meat or for a Bat sequel. Jim's writing style changed a lot since the 1970s. He doesn't seem to want to be Springsteen and Spector anymore, and hasn't for a long time. The new songs mentioned in the blog like "Paradise Lost" were never even written in the first place, according to Smeghead and others who've posted here. Jim just blogged about them as if they existed, but they don't count worth BEANS if they were never written. If Jim had made a Bat3 album with Meat it would have been not a true sequel but a marketing gimmick, kinda like Desmond's album was, but still better than that.

I don't believe there's any album that is likely to be made in the 1990s or the current decade, by anybody, that's a true sequel to Bat. Fans who clamor for such a thing are being nostalgic. I don't think there's any scenario where an album of songs not written by Steinman is a sequel to it, because his style is too distinctive and the imitations of him are never even close.


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