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Leesa (gallytrotter@mchsi.com) 11:59 pm UTC 09/09/07 |
| In reply to: | re: The Stalking of Susan - pidunk 10:57 pm UTC 09/09/07 |
| So I'm still one of the 'people from your past'. Whatever. That alone cuts ALL of your credibility with me, sister. Sorry, but nothing except the West Branch ties you have about me are even close to accurate. You are just a victim of self induced paranoia and conspiracy theories. Best of luck, I'm done. Leesa J Oh, by the way, TRhaya HAS been found! Small world... > > > > You know Susan, if things are actually that serious and > > sinister in your off-line life to the point your health is > > being jepordised of several fronts, perhaps the healthiest > > thing to do for a while is take a break afrom this board. > > This board existed long before I found it, and long before > this board existed things happened to me which I describe. > It has nothing to do with the existence or my presence on > the board, but it has everything to do with public forums > being employed by connected people to communicate in an > unapparent way, heretofore untraceable and unaccessible to > law enforcement in the United States, of things which are > sinister in nature. If the arenas of their "freedom" were > to be reduced, so would too would their senses of freedom > in using them. That is one reason why I like the FBI's new > ability to look in on websites, after the Patriot Act was > initiated. Furthermore, people who also do such things > often times do simulate different locales from their real > physical positions, much the same way that traveling cons > might use aliases. There is nothing about someone saying > they are from a country, using that country's ISP to > simulate that location, anymore than there is something to > someone saying that they are Mary Poppins. Nowadays when > they do, they merely give more work to the FBI to link to > foreign jurisdictions, and feel that they can give > themselves the edge by doing so. There is a highly > significant lack of American posters on this board. I'm > not accusing any of the people who are actually foreign, > just saying that some people who are really foreign, are > mistaking other people who say they are foreign for being > just like them....and some of the information they share > between each other privately might wind up encouraging the > American-as- foreign's ruse. But they don't have to be > members of this site. Plenty of people who would do this > rely on other online resources far unrelated to this, to > gather their information. Frauders will defraud, period. > > > > I agree that there is alot of blatant hatred aimed your > > way, much inspired by things (imagined or not) that you've > > said here in the past that really pissed some posters off > > to an enormous degree. > > I recall when The Beatles had their Jesus experience. Poor > John Lennon said that The Beatles were more popular than > Jesus and had to have a press conference to explain what > he meant. Until then, people were burning Beatle albums by > the thousands. Even that, did not result in hatred against > either the Beatles or John Lennon, and everyone went on > their merry ways once the clarification was made. > > Hatred does not come from a statement or a series of > statements, and nobody here hates me because of anything I > have ever said. > > People hate me for reasons they don't tell, who I do not > know. I do not know them on the board, I do not know them > anywhere I go. They have a culture of their own, with > resources of their own, and connections of their own, and > that has nothing to do with anything I say. They are so > significant in this country that there was a time when the > actual NORSAT satellite was highly likely set on my > position on a daily basis and referred to between others > in references made around me. That has nothing to do with > anything I have said on this board. > > > > >I'm not condoning death threats and > > the like but unfortunately for both sides, you won't be > > banned and neither will they and they'll continue to voice > > their opinions. > > They don't have opinions, they don't give me opinions. > They give me hatred. > > > >They situation will simply go on. > > That said, the vast majority of posters here live far away > > from you and I doubt any have the real where-with-all to > > seek you out and cause you physical harm. What people > > say/do on the 'net is often very different than what they > > actually would do in real life--even what they'd say in a > > telephone conversation. > > Fortunately, those in law enforcement and investigation > are far too sophisticated to pay any attention to the > naive dribble of things about apparent distances and who > may not give me harm or trouble. The history is long, the > logs are big, and there is too much to ignore. One gets an > education about what one can do, when they see what has > been done to me and that is true on both sides.....those > who want to get away with things see if they can do it to > me first. Those who want to do something to me do it to > others first. I was supposed to be in the World Trade > Center on 9/11. I was supposed to be in a Federal Building > working for the IRS even prior to that. When I am > positioned in places, and I leave the places, the plans > somehow seem to continue despite my absence, as I left the > Federal Government in 1982 and the Murrah Federal Building > was struck in 1994 as a punctiation of my danger......I > was working in New York City and left there in 1996, > against all sorts of protests....and I go to places where > there is a lack of significance to the point where it is > difficult to find excuses for. Because they would kill a > thousand people to kill me. > > People of ordinary experience cannot comprehend the things > that happen to me, around me, and about me, and the only > thing that brings it to my thinking is the consistency > with which it happens. > > > That is why I can't travel, why I can't go to places of > high significance, because if I had the plans to go there, > I would get hurt there. I was worried terribly in 1996 > when Jim Cypherd had previously told me he was going to be > at the Atlanta Olympics, and during that time, a bomb went > off near the performance stage there, and I frantically > called Jim and called Jim and found that he had canceled > his plan to be there after all....and if he had gone, he > would have been at that stage. I also had a scare with him > in 1997 when he was being drawn in to perform services to > a "school" and they were going to take him to the midwest > and he didn't feel like there was anything else for him to > do at the time....previously I learned he was being paid > to give some music production lectures at this "school", > and I asked him questions about what the man's name was > who was paying him. That name because relevant in 1997 > when the "school" turned out to be the cult called > "Heaven's Gate", and his time he was told to be there, was > the time when they all killed themselves in San > Diego....and Jim and I were both upset..he didn't tell me, > and I saw him in his mood just before I turned on the > news....I put the two together, and called him on that > Easter Sunday morning, us both knowing he had a close > call, so I said to him, "I'm happy to wish you a Happy > Easter" and he answered in a somber tone, "So am I". He > was not a member of the cult but they were defrauding his > purpose with them and their nature, and he would have been > one of those covered in those robes found dead as if he > killed himself. You see what it is that we go through, > that people here hide and they lie and call ME the liar? > All they do is deflect from themselves, deflect from the > truth, and we know, the truth about ourselves and our > lives. It may not be comprehensible to others who live > ordinary lives, but it is something we have been forced to > exist with. > > This is why it is important that you know who the composer > is and who the composer isn't. The composer is Jim > Cypherd, the same Jim Cypherd that I almost lost. And that > you would have lost without even knowing it. Know it. Just > f-king know it. > > > > I frankly don't understand what makes a format like this > > so important for someone to remain and take such abuse. > > I don't post at forums for the sake of posting at forums. > I do not care for the quality of people who are > controlling most forums I visit. I am representing my > truths and Jim Cypherd's truths as I know them to be > truths to the extent that I can. Abuse is given by > abusers, and it is they who are at fault for giving abuse, > it is not my fault for having to put up with it. They want > to make the abuse a reason for me to leave...when they > abuse in order to cause a reason for me to leave in > absence of any other reason for me to leave. They care > about results...they are corporately oriented in that they > have slogans which seem popular, "There is no try, only > do" and they call themselves "Results oriented", making > themselves sound like business men doing business. There > are also those slogans that make them seem like they are > doing charitable work, where each one is "doing my part". > Their culture has their own lexicon, which I hear over and > over again. They yell, scream, make themselves look anyway > they need to look like, to "get the job done". > > > > > > > The 'net is full of communities like this and just like > > real neighbourhoods, sometimes people fit and sometimes > > they don't. Short of stricter board policing I see no > > change in the dynamic. > > Some of them, as well documented in cases not related to > my own, are simply communities of these culturalists > "doing their parts" and "doing their jobs" sharing their > connections with one another under guises which form the > subject of the boards. There are phonies by the thousands. > You can find the ones who belong by the number of groups > they belong to on google....there are those who have posts > numbering in the tens of thousands, making two posts on a > board then making another two posts on another board, for > hundreds of boards. You find one such profile in the > persona of The_Jackster, who as searching him out shows, a > perfect text-book example of board hopping, and when you > see a board hopper, you see someone who is looking for > something beyond what the board is designed to provide. > > Leesa, such named profile on Google shows that thousands > of people are using the same email address to belong to a > myriad of boards. There is no such actual address but they > use it anyway. You said search, and I searched. The thing > about these accounts is that each has to have a password, > and each one does involve a verification email, so they > have to be able to access and verify it, and use the > password to log on using that account. Who handles it, who > distributes it, and who deals with it, is the internet IP > domain assignors located in Southern California. The > people who are in the culturalist base, are highly > technical in general nature. > > > > If you and Bright Eyes set up a Cypherd board so easily, > > Bright_Eyes set up the board. I merely joined it. I had > previously made a Jim Steinman board without using > Cypherd's name because Cypherd had not yet given me that > permission to do so as such, but did give me the okay for > the site...and I feel that Bright_Eyes is Jim Cypherd and > not an imposter, even though he acts alot like he has > nothing to do with Steinman, because he is so easily > mistaken for me. One of his sales points, call it that for > the moment, of getting me to agree to marry him all the > way back in 1962, was his showing me that we talk the same > way. Good point....made the sale...but in many ways we are > so different...and so there is much to learn about each > other. But, we know each other pretty well on the basic > levels. The Jim Steinman board I made, which I called The > Lily Sincere Forum, was destroyed by Ryan as the Mad > Hatter in August of 2006 . Since then, Jim Cypherd did try > to encourage me to remake a board, but I felt too > depressed about it. I didn't see a point to it. I'd > happily make another board and call it the Jim Cypherd > board, at some other time, but am glad that Bright_Eyes > has done so. I post there when I feel that something is > worthy to post. > > > > why not set up another Jim-board and ban whoever you want > > then--perhaps YOU should make the alternative? > > Nobody would go there if they don't know why they should > go there. Jim Cypherd as a record producer in his own > right has not really given any impetus to make an issue on > that regard, but he as the composer of songs using the > name Jim Steinman, as well as that use of the alias of > Richard O'Brien before Richard Smith took prominence on > it, are reasons for it....but it is this transition from > not knowing to knowing is the only thing that would > generate traffic. What I can point to most directly is his > influence on the group Sparks, as well as his influence on > the group The Scorpions, both of which are fabulous music > makers. What I know is mostly what Jim Cypherd has told to > me, or shown to me in ways that I accept as convincing, > and it isn't important to really go around spouting about > it if there was not so many complications causing the > dispersed parts of his creativity as well as his lack of > directness in integrating them. Ace Frehley told me in > 1988 that Jim needed to be organized. That is fully > euphamistic, but he noted and shared his observations with > me that Jim and I speak and do things in many of the same > ways. He said he was a little bit surprised to see that. I > knew he was referring to Jim Cypherd because he arranged > to have Jim Cypherd attend as a producer, to one of the > songwriter showcases shortly afterwards. I didn't talk to > Ace since then, because I was too emotional about having > seen Jim and knew that Ace had arranged for this, but was > surprised myself. But that's a whole 'nother story. > > > > I seriously doubt anyone here actually IS from your past, > > regardless of what you believe. I think your paranoia will > > kill you before Pud or Smeg blow up you 'puter. > > I'd take a brek from posting for a while and look into > > setting up another site. > > Don't forget you're one of them too. > > > > > > > I'm very glad to see that I inspired you to post about the > > > concert you saw two days ago. You needed just the right > > > entrance to justify putting it here, and my fight for > > > life, my pleading for my life is just the thing to bring > > > it on? You saw this concert two days ago, a Marion Raven > > > concert, who ages ago was criticized for her performance > > > with someone else who was criticized for his performance > > > ad nausum. While all this SMOKE is blown in my face and > > > everyone's faces, the real thing that is happening here is > > > that people are calling for my death, and nobody here sees > > > the real things that are happening in my day to day life > > > which are responding to it. I am experiencing > > > manifestations in life off this board, out of the internet > > > arena, which originate from these people who are calling > > > for my death. I am in danger. I do not lie. I've been in > > > danger for a long time, and I am at the point where people > > > are gathering around me, just as they gather on this > > > board. They have their cloaks, they have their excuses, > > > but they have their positions, nevertheless. > > > > > > Maybe some people think this is a game because it is on a > > > computer screen, but it is not a game. THis is real. It is > > > real life, real death, real hatred, and real uknown > > > motivations. I am not sally anonymous. I have a > > > significance in some peoples' worlds that I have without > > > encouraging it. Some of that significance is of the nature > > > of people who want to kill me and who will back each > > > other's alibis up. In my lifetime, I want to see them > > > weakened, to see that they can't get away with it. I want > > > them to stop believing that they can do anything that they > > > want to me. > > > > > > Please, forget about the phony concert review. For two > > > days you held onto it. So you maybe had no real reason to > > > post it after all, but to cover up what I wrote. > > > > > > Just stop the killing, the mental killing, the emotional > > > killing, and prevent the physical killing, of my heart, my > > > spirit, and my life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wenesday i attended a Marion Raven concert (Meats female > > > > vocalist on IACBTMN and recent opening act). It was staged > > > > in a tiny place (less than 100 people) in Cologne, Germany > > > > and taped for TV. It will be aired on WDR at November, > > > > 4th. > > > > > > > > Besides doing her set with a full band she performed > > > > IACBTMN solo with just herself on keys. It was another > > > > rare moment of experiencing Steinmusic and you all will > > > > probably be able to hear/see it after TV - I hope they do > > > > not cut that out. To me this version ranks somewhere in > > > > the lower middle between my top (Pandoras Box/Joes > > > > Pub/Elaine of courese) and bottom (Celine Dions sterile > > > > performance). > > > > > > > > Michael | |
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