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pidunk 10:27 am UTC 09/10/07 |
| In reply to: | re: When I Stop, They Start, And Find A New Angle....NOW I Am A Friend Betrayor! LOL!! - AndrewG 09:32 am UTC 09/10/07 |
Fuck fuck fuck all this shit! Go ahead and ban me if you utterly cannot tolerate this post but this guy is worth it. He is exactly WHY those others are doing what they do. So that people without ordinary reasons to hold biases would have their heads turned in abated literacy and conclude that the hate mongers are right. I'll go stupid paragraph after stupid paragraph. This is my post that the idiot is replying to: > > It seems to me like talking about Marion Raven > > is not talking about Jim, and talking about Meat Loaf's > > voice is not talking about Jim, and talking about any NJC > > is not talking about Jim. > This is the idiotic reply: > Meat Loaf is in a strong way related to Jim Steinman as he > performs Jim Steinman songs, Fuck this shit about Meat Loaf being related to Jim Steinman because he performs his songs. Talk about the songs, not the performances....not since 1979 has Jim been onstage with Meat Loaf except under some special circumstances with Bat2 promos and some rare occasions, as I have not kept any journal. I was not following either's careers, and I do not know all the facts and figures like some sports statistics memorizer. So many people perform so many peoples' songs, and not a one of those performers would consider themselves "related" to the songwriter just because they performed one or more of their songs. There was a time when Meat Loaf was synonymous with Jim's works, but not any more. That ship has sailed. It's out of the dock. It's flown south for the winter. That bird's lost its feathers. It's Dead Jim. Furthermore, you must realize that what it takes to sing is a set of lungs, a larynx, and a mouth. By this regard, any singer is related to every songwriter because they sing songs. It just does not work as a justification. Dionne Warwick wasn't even related in this sense with Burt, because she is the performer, and the writer and the performer simply are differently natured beings. There is no relation between one type of worker in one department and another type of worker in another department even if they work for the same company. Meat Loaf has left Jim Steinman's camp by virtue of what he has done. It no longer matters what he says. He's history in the annals of the Steinman legend. >so did Marion Raven when we > talked about that. Absolute horse-shit. Singing a song of Jim's does not qualify any one person to be included in discussion about Jim himself as a composer. The performance has nothing to do with the composition or the composer. The performer has nothing to do with the writer. She never came to Jim and said hello sir I am so happy to sing your song now I am related to you and your fans will be my fans and isn't that wonderful? That ship hasn't left the ship-yard of logic yet. >We've talked about Meat Loaf on this > baord at LEAST since 1998 when I started to post here. And now it is time, long time gone, that you should stop. En-fucking-ough already. > Most NJC is related to music in the same style as Jim > Steinman or musicals or are interesting jokes / passtimes > / moves / general entertainment. Not valid. If you want to discuss other styles or other writers or other performers go to their fan sites and leave them out of this one. If you discover they don't have a fan site, then make your own board to discuss them with like-minded fans like you, and leave Jim's board out of it. Jim's board isn't a lonely posters club for lost musical fan interests. > > Talking about a load of shit regarding feeling sorry for > yourself / personal health / constantly Cypherd shit / > trying to intimidate JD etc etc is just polluting this > board with a load of nonsense imo. I had a fucking heart attack. It wasn't a common cold. I've been in the hospital and had an absence. I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I count my blessings. And Jim Cypherd is the composer of this fan based website. Without Jim Cypherd there is no reason to discuss someone named Jim Steinman. It must be understood that there are two men, not one, one that is Jim Steinman, and IS related to Jim Cypherd, and vice versa, and Jim Steinman helped Jim Cypherd get his education which helped him get his start, and helps him with so many wonderful things including helping him manage this fan base, and has been there and been there, but he is not the composer, which Jim Cypherd is. Whatever reasons for Jim Cypherd's having needed the support of Jim Steinman for this to be, are those which I have not attempted to discuss past those that I have personal knowledge of. The reasons why Jim Steinman gave such support to Jim Cypherd is because he loves and respects Jim Cypherd as I do as well. It is fitting and proper to discuss Jim Cypherd, because Jim Cypherd is not only related to Jim Steinman, but is the writer of the music under the name of Jim Steinman, and the reason why you all are here. As I said before, just fucking know it. I do not intimidate Jacqueline. Every hater on the board seems to attempt to intimidate Jacqueline, but I do not. Just because you can't see the names above the threads is a reason why the hateful threads must be pruned to reduce the hatred, so that honest and non-hating posts can stand on their merits and not be confused with hating posts. >Obviously everybody > including Steinman / JD feel the same way otherwise you > wouldn't be on a ban warning. I'm on a bad day warning. If I get banned it won't be Jim Cypherd's doing. And I know that, even if he does not say anything to stop it. No matter what happens to me on this board, my ability to communicate with and about Jim Cypherd will not be squelched. I can bring back Lily Sincere and expand it. I can remake the forum with security and volume controls. Ryan got lucky in ruining my forum because I was on a weak server. My friendship with Jim Cypherd is constant and abiding, without any change regardless of whether or not I get banned, or what Jacqueline does, or what she thinks Jim Steinman really wants. My acknowledgement of Jim Steinman's support to Jim Cypherd likewise will not change. The only thing that could change is my understanding of where proprietary logic has gone to. >You've got everbody against > you (Well except for Bright eyes) and by going on and on > and on about this your isolating yourself at least on this > board. Most people who state an opinion on the subject state that the replies of hatred against me are far worse than any post I make, and it has been acknowledged by those who would be so logical, that my posts are not hateful. >So stop and start posting normal things is my > advice. The actual fact of it is, if you are not really related to Steinman yourself, or a friend, or someone who comes here to check out on new news, you are totally abnormal, and if I am abnormal in my own way, that's just plain glop to you. >Take it or leave it. I'm done dealing with this. Good. Then don't give me a load of crap on the thread responding to me again. Respond like a literate and intelligent human, or just leave me the fuck alone. Now, I'll see if I get banned about this or not. I spent two years off the board, I am not addicted to it. I have my priorities in life squarely set to positive, and I love Jim Cypherd no matter what anybody ever says. Letting hate prevail is like having a black coal in your Christmas stocking. | |
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