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Pudding 05:22 am UTC 01/27/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Rydian Interview - rockfenris2005 05:16 am UTC 01/27/08 |
| When you have songs like Mr.Blobby reaching #1 who's going to give a shit about sentimental messages in the lyrics? There is absolutely no commercial value in NATL being released as a single. And why release it knowing it's going to be a lesser Steinman single? > No, no one's going to know that it has the same writer > unless they check the fine print. But the songs have very > similar messages. It's just NATL has more complicated > lyrics. But I think it's sentiment is universal, and > that's why it *could* succeed. As a lesser "more > pop/commercial" Steinman single. > > > > I highly doubt anyone is going to give rats ass about Not > > Allowed To Love having a similar message to No Matter > > What. The Teletubbies didn't have a hit because it had a > > similar message to Mr.Blobby now did it? > > > > The hardball fact is, Not Allowed To Love is not that > > great of a song. I respect the fact that you think it's > > the next best thing to slice bread, but it isn't really > > chart friendly...my opinion of course. > > > > > > > Yeah, Lloyd Webber wrote the tune. But the song has a > > > similar sort of message, about someone being persecuted > > > (that was my interpretation at least) and sticking by > > > their beliefs. But it doesn't have an epic tune, does it? > > > Like "Not Allowed To Love", it's not trying to be "It's > > > All Coming Back To Me Now" and "I'd Do Anything For Love" > > > or even some of Webber's stuff. I think if Jim gave "Not > > > Allowed To Love" to a girl group, or a famous act, it > > > would do the same as "No Matter What". But only the > > > pop/dance version. The original is way too theatrical, too > > > "Rodgers and Hart". > > > > > > > I may be completely off base with this, but Jim didn't > > > > write the tune for No Matter What, Andrew Lloyd Webber > > > > did...didn't he? The song was then performed by the > > > > biggest boyband act at the time. No one really gave a shit > > > > about the lyrics to start off with. > > > > > > > > > I hear no difference between the beauty (or whatever) of > > > > > the tunes for "No Matter What" and "Not Allowed To Love". > > > > > I think they function on similar levels, based on the > > > > > pop/dance mix (The original would only work as an Adult > > > > > Contemporary song.) And they both seem to have an > > > > > underlying message about people's freedom. I think a great > > > > > deal of the public could connect to that, even though some > > > > > of the lyrics are a bit verbose. > > > > > > > > > > > > What about the rest of the song? > > > > > > > > > > > > What about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > People will either listen to a song and like it because of > > > > > > the artist (think hardcore Loafers). Some people listen to > > > > > > the tune and like the melody and lyrics usually come > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand a lot of songwriters write the lyrics first > > > > > > then the tune, but for the majority of listeners I would > > > > > > guess it's the tune first then the lyrics. | |
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