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rockfenris2005 12:30 pm UTC 03/04/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Masquerade is only in the chorus, of course - EvilNickname 11:47 am UTC 03/04/08 |
Wait, this is what it's referred to in English: A) Braver Than We Are (Alternate. Out On The Far Side.) B) Red Boots Ballet C) Say A Prayer This is what it's referred to in German: A) Draussen ist Freiheit B) Starker als wir sind (Die Roten Stieful) C) Starker als wir sind "Starker als wir sind (Die Roten Stieful)" (or "Red Boots Ballet") is, to my ears, a sped-up version of "Draussen ist Freiheit". I don't notice anything thematically different to what we hear in "Freiheit". The arrangement is bigger, rockier and more theatrical. That's all. Even the dance part is (what I refer to it in English): "There are secrets I never can tell / There are shadows of darkness in heaven" etc. It's all the same tune. On Broadway, the dance part also includes the theme for "Angels Arise" and parts of "The Storm" (which had turned up, musically, when Chagal raced into the Forest. In the German version. Whew! This gets confusing! But bare with me.) Then "Say A Prayer" / "Starker als wir sind" plays. That's not really new either. It's just a new vocal part written over the theme of the chorus to "Freiheit" and "Starker als wir sind (Die Roten Stieful)" ("The Red Boots" part, Stuttgart version NOT the Vienna dance sequence.) You can tell, because Sarah and Krolock start to sing that line. It's just the voices of the townspeople that are different. Technically, nothing new was added to the sequence, just a variation on existing themes that weren't used to the best of their ability in Vienna. > So you're talking about "Draussen ist Freiheit" too, > right? As the "Starker als wir sind" ("Wenn Musik das Herz > verwirrt / Und die Sehnsucht tanzen geht / etc.") part > does not have anything I would label as a chorus. > > I'm wondering where the "Say a Prayer" section comes from, > not the rest of the song. > > > > > > And it's just the 2 lines. It's like a brief, brief quote. > > What intrigues me is how Jim came up with the verses in > > "Draussen ist Freiheit" and the bridge between the > > choruses. Where did that come from? I don't think "Starker > > als wir Sind" was written before Stuttgart, because it > > just seems like a musical repeat of "Freiheit". There was > > no new melodies in the song. Even the end part, which was > > "Say A Prayer" in the US, is a variation on the chorus in > > "Freiheit". Besides, the Karine Hannah demos were from > > 2001, the same year that "Starker" was premiered. | |
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