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| re: Meat, Jim and Presidents of the US of A | |
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Pudding 11:01 pm UTC 07/28/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat, Jim and Presidents of the US of A - Max 04:55 am UTC 07/28/08 |
| It's Republicans who've pinned the 'messiah' label on Obama, probably to try and solidify the religous whacko's who'll be disgruntled at him being associated with Jesus. It's a clever tactic I have to admit. Although the extra troops helped, the tribal leaders were actually changing allegiance, fighting the insurgents and changing the course of the awr BEFORE 'the surge', that's a fact. So would there have been the same result without the so-called surge? who knows. I personally believe though that Obama should give some recognition to General Petreaus's leadership and what he's done in Iraq. Just out of interest I checked the US military body count (http://icasualties.org/oif/) for Iraq since 'The Surge' started back in Feb 2007. It's around 1120, so that raises the question on how successful 'the surge' actually is. I don't have the actual figures, but it's well documented that Afghanistan never had enough troops from the start, which is something all the Generals agree on. Afghanistan always has been where the main fight was and there's no doubt that he Taliban there are getting stronger and becoming more of a threat. > I'm sure most Republicans would agree that Obama is not > the messiah, and I'm sure most wonldnt even concede the > title wise man. I'm not sure how much a delay 26 days is > but I would say it would have been better to accept the > Taliban's offer to try bin Laden if only to keep him > confined to a particular area. I merely think its partly > humorous that Obama is quick to discount the surge in Iraq > and then call for a surge in Afghanistan. > > > > Looking more to the heart of the issue Obama shares the > > > same fundamental foreign policy of pro-interventionism > > > that the current administration holds. Obama would only > > > rather shift the emphasis of the War on Terror from Iraq > > > to Afghanistan with his own "surge" strategy. > > > > What a load of bollocks. The current administration > > delayed going into Afghanistan, so most of the Taliban AND > > Bin Laden got away, then he lost focus on that war and > > invaded Iraq for no legitimate reason, but he made one up > > only to be found out he was talking shit. > > > > Whoever is the next President is going to inherit a lot > > bad foreign policies and it's going to take time to > > correct them. Miracles aint going to happen over night and > > despite what a lot of Republicans think, Obama aint the > > next Messiah. | |
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