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re: Streets Of Fire & Road To hell

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ccurnan (roadtohellmovie@yahoo.com) 05:13 pm UTC 09/11/08
In reply to: re: Streets Of Fire & Road To hell - wordnix 04:35 pm UTC 09/11/08

I'm not sure how to address you. wordnix?

I appreciate the info about Jim Steinman's new recording of "Nowhere Fast". I don't see the link though; would you mind emailing the link to me at roadtohellmovie@yahoo.com?

Thanks
Cynthia Curnan

> Thank you very much, ma'am. I'm pleased to see your direct
> addressing of this matter. I'd be glad to see the film
> when it comes out and judge it on its own merits. Also,
> this may be a bit much to ask, but Jim has recorded a new
> version of "Nowhere Fast" with his band the Dream Engine.
> It's available on their MySpace (link below) and may well
> fit in?
>
> > Hello. Please allow me to set the record straight.
> >
> > Albert Pyun and I have never claimed that 'Road to Hell'
> > is a sequel to "Streets of Fire". We have no control over
> > the claims of others. Long ago, Albert and I disagreed
> > about the ending of 'Streets Of Fire'. He thought the
> > ending was romantic and I thought it was tragic. Our
> > disagreement became the inspiration for 'Road to Hell'. I
> > wanted to show Albert what can happen when a soldier turns
> > his back on true love.
> >
> > We both wanted to see Michael Pare` return to his iconic
> > roots with characters like Tom and Eddie in a film
> > reminiscent of both of those films as well as the early
> > noir thrillers.
> >
> > We are hoping to get John Cafferty to sing two of the
> > original songs for Road (Mr. Cafferty, if you read this,
> > please contact me) but that does not make Road a sequel to
> > "Eddie and the Cruisers". We are also trying to locate
> > Chris Rea to license his song "Road to Hell" (Mr. Rea or
> > his people, please contact me)
> >
> > And yes, we are licensing Jim Steinman's songs, "Tonight
> > is What it Means to be Young" and "No Where Fast" for
> > Road. Albert has carried Jim Steinman's songs around the
> > world for 24 years and he's thrilled to be able to include
> > them in his in his movie.
> >
> > Hopefully, you will see the film and decide for yourself
> > whether or not Road to Hell stands on it's own.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Cynthia Curnan
> >
> > > I would welcome a discussion with her. I'm not arguing
> > > with you about whether or not a sequel can have
> > > similarities, but what you seem to miss in my post is that
> > > initially this wasn't even advertised as a sequel! This
> > > was advertised as a completely original film "inspired by
> > > films such as" SOF, a claim of originality which everyone
> > > could tell by looking at the site was utter bollocks
> > > because the design and the characters, etc., sounded like
> > > pages right out of SOF.
> > >
> > > When mainstream Net news sources picked it up, then (and
> > > only then) did the word of it being a sequel to SOF came
> > > out. I assume they were trying to avoid some sort of legal
> > > trouble. But now the way things are stacking up similarity
> > > wise, down to the use of two songs in the soundtrack that
> > > would no doubt fit in at the same dramatic points in the
> > > film, I repeat that unless they did get permission and
> > > this is some sort of authorized sequel, then Walter Hill
> > > and whoever else worked on the film has every right to
> > > sue.
> > >
> > > I know the saying "Innocent till proven guilty," and I
> > > understand that, but the way they went about this gradual
> > > release of information smells fishy, hence my skepticism.
> > > You're free to have your opinion, I'm free to have mine.
> > > Live and let live. Let's leave it at that, eh?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Oh right so a sequel according to you must have no
> > > > similarities, hmm, you could argue that some of the most
> > > > famous sequels are just ripoffs of the original,
> > > > Magnificent 7, Lethel weapon, Harry Potter for example.
> > > > I don't know about your claims, i first visited the site
> > > > when someone posted a link here a coupla months ago, the
> > > > story outline was posted on the website at that time and
> > > > apart from the names i think it is a "new" story.
> > > > Hopefully if Cynthia Curnan comes on the board she will
> > > > alay your fears, but then again the negativity that is
> > > > prevelent here may scare her away.
> > > >
> > > > > You have your opinion, I'll have mine. But I think mine is
> > > > > borne out by a few things:
> > > > >
> > > > > -- When the site first came out, "Road to Hell" was touted
> > > > > as an original film "inspired by" SOF.
> > > > > -- When people started making noise about all the
> > > > > similarities between them, then it was mentioned as a
> > > > > sequel.
> > > > > -- Now the similarities are piling up at such an alarming
> > > > > rate I'm waiting to hear when they start to cry "remake."
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If Walter Hill and other members of the SOF team have
> > > > > given their permission, I'd like to see it, and if I am
> > > > > provided with it, I willingly will retract anything I've
> > > > > said. Till then, I stand firm that someone's ass is gonna
> > > > > get sued and very soon.
> > > > > > I don't think it's ripped off/influenced by, it's a bloody
> > > > > > follow up, have you missed the point?
> > > > > > It's the story of what happened to Cody & McCoy years
> > > > > > after the events in SOF, A SEQUEL, albeit produced by
> > > > > > different people, what is that so strange, or have you
> > > > > > TOTALLY missed the point.
> > > > > > For example ALL the Alien films had pretty much a
> > > > > > different production team, or do you class all those
> > > > > > sequels as a ripoff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not worried about the songs, they got relevant
> > > > > > > permission for those by interview account, but everything
> > > > > > > else that seems ripped off from (excuse me...influenced
> > > > > > > by) "Streets of Fire" does give one pause.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do WE know for sure that the relevent permissions have not
> > > > > > > > been obtained, after all they ARE licensing the 2 songs in
> > > > > > > > the correct manner. So maybe we should assume that they
> > > > > > > > have been sought and obtained.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't mean to discourage the makers of RTH, but they do
> > > > > > > > > realize that Walter Hill has considerable grounds with
> > > > > > > > > which to sue them for copyright infringement at this
> > > > > > > > > point, right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > With the release this autumn of RTH, i'd like to ask Jim
> > > > > > > > > > about the song Nowhere Fast.
> > > > > > > > > > As we all know theres the film version and Meatloafs
> > > > > > > > > > version, around the time of release i remember reading an
> > > > > > > > > > article that said that the original version was given to
> > > > > > > > > > Meatloaf and a rewrite of the song was done for the film,
> > > > > > > > > > i'd like to know
> > > > > > > > > > 1- Was the meatloaf version originally intended for the
> > > > > > > > > > film?
> > > > > > > > > > 2- If it was, who decided it wasn't suitable, you or the
> > > > > > > > > > film company?
> > > > > > > > > > 3- If it was your decision, what was it about the original
> > > > > > > > > > version that made you consider a rewrite?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Personally i prefer the SOF version, but the above
> > > > > > > > > > questions have had me wondering for years.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On a final note i've been in contact with RTH screenwriter
> > > > > > > > > > Cynthia Curnan who's in the process of registering for the
> > > > > > > > > > Rockman board.
> > > > > > > > > >

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