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re: Bat - more for anglophiles than the US?

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tincrowdor 06:19 pm UTC 09/29/08
In reply to: re: Bat - more for anglophiles than the US? - samurai7 09:28 pm UTC 09/28/08

I was expecting to get ripped to bits to be honest. I see a lot of Beatles influence in Jim's stuff especially the basslines. Of course Jim has said that he was born in the wrong time and country. Maybe with the lyrics and influence of the Doors and The Beach Boys it is typically American.

> I've personally always seen it as a pretty American album,
> especially lyrically. There's a whole bunch of references
> to baseball, and other stuf alien to us Brits, like
> crackerjack boxes and coup de villes etc. But the themes
> are pretty universal, once we're past the idioms, and the
> setting could be anywhere, though it does talk of
> All-American boys and girls (All Revved Up).
>
> I also think that the music is far more in the
> Springsteen/Spectre vein that The Who or The Beatles, but
> I do get the caomparison with, say Took the Words and Baba
> O'Reilly, what with the power chords intro etc, and I do
> think a major trick was missed when the album was mixed,
> because the drums really lack the presence that later Jim
> tunes would benefit from, and The Who have a very
> drum-heavy sound which I love, but I'm drifting off topic,
> lol.
> I guess the other big Who similarity is the whole
> Rock-Opera tag, although I don't see Bat the album as an
> opera. Maybe a collection of song FROM one, but not like
> Tommy, for instance.
>
> The album was, and still is, a bit hit in the UK. Not sure
> why we've taken it to our hearts more than the US though,
> but it's also huge in Holland and Australia, so it's not
> purely a British thing (although we do sort of own
> Australia :p - sorry Ryan lol)
>
> Anyway, kudos if you got this far, and I'm not dismissing
> your opinion - in fact I love hearing what others think
> about these songs. What do people think of when they
> listen to them. Where do the songs take you, and what do
> you see there?
>
> S
>
>
> > Coming from the UK I think this aspect of Bat hasn't been
> > touched upon. Isn't there a lot of English-ness in Bat.
> > For a US album it seems aimed elsewhere. Jim has said he
> > is a fan of the Beatles, The Who and Queen. Todd Rundgren
> > .. Beatles again. I think the album also did better
> > relatively in the UK than anywhere else. Didn't the UK tv
> > show The Old Grey Whistle Test introduce Meat Loaf into
> > the public eye? I expect someone to blow holes in my
> > theory


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