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Wilbury 10:04 pm UTC 03/01/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Blurb from NY Post - CultOfByron 01:00 pm UTC 03/01/07 |
| It's academic in the sense that the entire discussion is one of theoretical conjecture, yes. But do you seriously believe that Bat would have been just as popular for just as long in just the same way if Todd had not been involved at all? Some of the songs would have been really quite similar / identical, but some would have been vastly different. Would the track listing even be the same? It could have been an instant hit then faded away if circumstances were slightly different at the beginning, who knows. Bat is WAY influenced in every way by the chance pairing of Jim and Todd -- or not so chance if you consider they flogged it endlessly to anyone for a really long time, but you know what I mean. The circumstantial pairing of Jim and Todd. > I guess it's all pretty academic now tho, Bat still sold > 40m and I can't see how this would have made any > difference except it would have made Warners richer rather > than Sony :p I can't remember his name, but someone > connected with Bat and Cleveland was involved in a legal > dispute with Sony were they not...? > > > Is this referring to the time when it had already been > > recorded by Todd and mixed by Iovine et al (I forget the > > other guy's name?!), or is this referring to even before > > then? > > > > It could have been so different had it been picked up by > > any one of the million they auditioned it too before Todd > > picked it up -- and I diodn't realsie it got so close to > > happening. > > > > I love Todd to bits, but you can't help but wonder what it > > would ahve been like if Bob Ezrin (top of Steinman's wish > > list for the producer job at the time, right?) had done > > it. If he had used his usual musicians it would have > > fucking rocked -- Tony Levin on bass would wipe the floor > > with kasim Sulton big time. Larry Fast on synths, I think, > > which is funny cause Jim ended up working with him anyway. > > And Jerry Marotta on drums too! Take Welcome to my > > Nightmare and Alice Goes To Hell, take out Alice Cooper > > and insert Jim and Meat. Ohhhhhh, yes that'd rock. > > > > I suppose they're just all part of the New York session > > men scene?? even tho Ezrin's canadian or something... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nypost.com/seven/02282007/gossip/pagesix/label_blew_meat_loafs_biggest_pagesix_.htm > > > > > > > > > LABEL BLEW MEAT LOAF'S BIGGEST > > > > > > February 28, 2007 -- WARNER Brothers Records has signed > > > scores of huge-selling artists, but one who got away was > > > Meat Loaf - because the mountain-size crooner got too > > > carried away performing his steamy classic "Paradise by > > > the Dashboard Light" for label executives back in the late > > > 1970s. In his new book, "The Label," Gary Marmorstein > > > writes that former Warner music president Mo Austin had > > > greenlighted the "Bat Out of Hell" album, but it was then > > > nixed by authoritative A&R chief Lenny Waronker. "[He] was > > > repulsed by the band's in-office performance, which > > > included Meat Loaf ostentatiously making out with singer > > > Ellen Foley during the long 'Paradise' number. It was a > > > catastrophic decision," Marmorstein writes. And how - the > > > album was released by little-known Cleveland International > > > Records in 1977, and went on to sell 40 million copies > > > worldwide. It continues to sell 200,000 copies a year to > > > this day, and was ranked No. 343 on Rolling Stone > > > magazine's list of the 500 greatest rock albums of all > > > time. | |
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