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re: Inside Information

Posted by:
Smeghead 07:04 pm UTC 11/19/09
In reply to: Inside Information - steven_stuart 06:04 pm UTC 11/19/09

Sounds like Caveman knows what's going on and proves my theory that your mum is as competent as you to produce this musical. Poor Jim.

> I don't know why Mr. Smeg sometimes gives me a hard time
> for posting so-called "intimate" or inside information but
> yet he is not giving the poster known as caveman a hard
> time over at Dave's brilliant new website.
>
> I put this in the same "posters being unfair" category
> that includes Pudding driving Ryan (possibly the most
> interesting poster in Rockman history) off the board and
> Pudding constantly having a go at Conas (please refer to
> the arguement during the "Karen Carpenter" thread lower
> down the page when Conas writes: "You are really hard on
> me, and every message you post is a run down. You aren't
> good at giving someone confidence that's for sure. No
> wonder Ryan left and never came back.").
>
> "Caveman" is posting a lot of inside information. I wonder
> who "caveman" is. He must be a member of Jim's Inside
> Court. Its certainly not Susan, Wordnix, or any of the
> other famous nutters from Rockman.
>
> Caveman writes: "The production side is all a bit shabby
> from what I understand. Elva is still involved (I believe)
> and well-intentioned, but there is no major company (Sony
> declined). The other 'producers' are a group of elderly
> insurance people and a couple of old small-fry management
> types. Plus an ex-EMI chap whose name I can't remember.
> Some serious people I know looked at the project but the
> advice they received included the words 'barge pole',
> 'touch' and 'don't'."
>
> In another post he writes: "Jim is NOT financing it
> himself. As far as I understand, financing isn't even in
> place."
>
> Pudding wrote: "I think Jim or whoever, would need to have
> pretty huge balls to put out an ad in the Evening Standard
> without finaninc being fully in place."
>
> Caveman replied: "Not unless retaining the Rights to the
> musical was conditional upon a substantial advertisement
> appearing in a major London newspaper by a certain date,
> along with the setting up of a dedicated website. As Jerry
> Maguire used to say .. 'Show me the money!"
>
> He then posted: "Of course Jim doesn't 'own' the Rights to
> his own musical. He sold them to the company headed by
> Elva and Frances. They now own the Rights, which have been
> extended several times already. Often, there are default
> mechanisms inserted into Rights agreements that revert
> them back to their original owner if certain criteria have
> not been met by agreed dates. For example, if you were
> selling the Rights, you might insist that, unless a
> double-page announcement ad and website does not appear by
> such and such a date, the purchasers are in default and
> the Rights revert back to you.
>
> However, from what I gather, the actual concept and
> content of the ad itself was Jim's own. Which is probably
> why he chose music for a career rather than advertising."
>
> About Frances caveman wrote: "she's actually a very sweet
> lady who thinks the music is a bit loud and refers to the
> show as 'the play'."
>
> This comment more than any other made me think that
> caveman is an insider.
>
> Wordnix replied (poor Frances): "In a strange way, I kind
> of enjoy the thought of Jim sitting at the piano or
> something bashing out his classics, and this little old
> lady counting out her share of the investment saying,
> "Mind the noise, dearie, I'm counting cash for the
> play!""
>
> Caveman then posted: "That sounds like Elva alright. She
> lived in Canada for some years where she worked in
> television news before moving into Ice Shows and Arena
> tours. She worked with John Curry and was quite innovative
> in her day. I think the idea for buying the Rights for Bat
> came when she was searching for a soundtrack to use as
> part of a motorbike arena show. She also worked with a guy
> called Steve Leber, who was part of the 'Beatlemania' team
> in New York. For a while, he and his son Jordan were
> involved with part of the London team for Bat, but things
> fizzled out. Who knows, he might be back in the frame..?
> Elva also owns the Rights to a stage adaptation to the
> Richard Bach book Jonathan Livingstone Segal. Does this
> help?"
>
> All the Rockman readers (as well as many others) are
> reading these posts. Its unfair that my mother (Elva)and
> JD want me to remain silent and this chap can write what
> he wants to.
>
> Some of caveman's comments are absolutely true. He is
> being a bit unfair about poor old Frances because she is
> an investor and not really a producer. My mother is the
> only one who deals with Jim on a daily basis. The others
> are very nice people who have invested hard earned money
> and who are genuine fans of Jim. Although he is not
> technically wrong with what he says about Frances.
>
> There is a financial producer (who disagrees with what
> caveman has said about the finance not being in place) but
> he deals with business and bookings and leaves the
> creative side to my mother and Jim and people like the
> director and the lighting designer.
>
> Caveman's comments about the finances not being in place
> is the only subject he got wrong. This is possibly because
> the financial producer is new on the scene and he has not
> yet been introduced to the "inside court" that caveman
> obviously belongs to.
>
> This is about to change, so watch out for caveman talking
> about him on Dave's website in the near future.
>
>
>
>
> Hope you and Jim are having a productive week.
>
>
>
>


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