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re: If Only We Could Hear From Wagner One More Time

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steven_stuart 11:17 pm UTC 11/26/09
In reply to: re: If Only We Could Hear From Wagner One More Time - Pudding 10:26 pm UTC 11/26/09

> > I hope its not me putting Jim off posting as Wagner. That
> > was great fun when he was doing that (even though it made
> > more than a few people paranoid).
>
> Well I think everyone that knows you are trying to
> distance themselves as much as possible because you're a
> loose cannon on the best of days who just can't shut the
> fuck up.
>
> It's almost as if you wish failure upon your Mother by
> spouting off the garbage that you do. I can understand
> that, as she seems to be quite dedicated and a bit of an
> achiever and you being too stupid and lazy to ever have
> achieved anything in life and constantly lives in her
> shadow. But don't forget who pays the bills, no doubt if
> it wasn't for her wiping your arse, you'd be on the
> streets by now doing god knows what to old men for a
> burger and a cup of tea.

Absolute bollocks. What garbage do I spout that makes you think I wish failure on my mother? Examples please.

I am very proud of my mother. I don't feel like I am living in her shadow. I help her a lot. Like Charles helps Jim.

I have no production skills. I can lecture about The Boxer Rebellion but I wouldn't know how to put a show together.

It was my idea to ask Jim to do an original score for a motor cycle show but it was my mother who wrote to him (when I found this website).

Hours later, Jim and my mother were talking on the phone. I could here part of the conversation and I know that I could never talk that producer/artist kind of talk.

This does not mean that I am living in anyone's shadow. I like being around entertainment people. I have been around them for most of my life. They are very kind to me.

My father suffered from what you describe. The poor bugger. He couldn't help it. Now he can't mention my mother's name without having convulsions.

All the entertainment types coming to the house drove him potty. It caused me a lot of pain at the time but I'm alright now, I'm jumping jack flash, its a gas, gas, gas.

Although he wasn't lazy or stupid. He was (is now retired) a hard working mechanical engineer with a degree from Durham.

He comes from a small town in what is now Cumbria. He was the first male in the family to avoid going down the mines.

Having spent time in Aspatria, I can see why he found it difficult to hang out with gay ice skaters (not that there is anything wrong with gay ice skaters).

Also, I pay my own bills. What are you talking about?

I am not stupid and lazy. That's you and Smeg.

I have a first class degree in Chinese Culture And History from The University Of London. I will never be in a position where I am on the streets and doing god knows what to old men for a burger and a cup of tea.

That's not a funny joke because there are some poor souls who have to do things like that to survive. They are mostly young people who are escaping abusive family lifes.

Jim is not trying to distance himself from me. I am not the reason that Wagner stopped posting. That was a joke, oh silly one. I have my own relationship with Jim and it is fine.

I put these accusations in the same category as when you claim that I am "spreading bullshit about Jim".

Let us make peace. As Klasien correctly points out, we are just a couple of apes.

Let two monkeys who fight learn to hold hands and share a banana together, as they face an uncertain future, relying on each other for warmth.


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