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rockfenris2005 04:55 am UTC 01/02/10 |
| In reply to: | re: Dead Ringer - Rob 11:59 pm UTC 01/01/10 |
I don’t know where this rumour comes from either. But Jaycee did an interview with Dave Thoener for a recording assignment a couple years back. I don’t remember what he had to say but maybe she can elaborate? I do remember something about Jim recording whole tracks with the band 10 times each or something - DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT - but that’s all I can remember. Jayceeeee????!!! As for Jim’s perfectionism, look at the production on "Back Into Hell" and look at the production on Queen "A Night at the Opera". You can tell a lot of work has gone into both of them and we know Queen are perfectionists. Perhaps Jim was just a perfectionist with HIS songs because they are HIS children? We don’t know if Def Leppard intended to record any Jim songs for "Hysteria" or not but I imagine not. > I'd love to know where this story of Jim piecing Meat's > vocals together to make Bat 2 came from. As far as I'm > aware, Jim's never referred to it in any interview and, > having seen Meat live on the Bat 2 tour, I can't see why > his vocals would have needed such treatment at the time. > > Should Frank Farian get a similar award for Blind Before I > Stop? (and yes, I'm aware of what he did with Milli > Vanilli before some smartarse chips in here ;-P). > > I always find it odd when people talk about Jim's > perfectionist production style of making Meat sing the > same line over and over again to get it right. Some people > seem not to have read Jim's Kerrang interview around the > time of Pandora's Box when he ridiculed "Mutt" Lange for > taking exactly that approach with Def Leppard. In fact, > Jim's "relaxed" approach to recording Joe Elliot's vocals > was one of the reasons he cited for his sacking from the > Hysteria project. > > Hmph - now I've got all that off my chest, make sure y'all > have a Happy New Year, y'hear? > > > Apparently he had the same problem with Meat's vocal > > tracks while they were producing Bat 2. But he stuck with > > the project and used different studio tricks (like taking > > different bits from different takes and making up a "good > > vocal track"). He must have been in a different place when > > he quit the Dead Ringer project. By the time they started > > work on Bat 2, he must have really wanted to put out a hit > > record because he overcame the vocal-hurdle (although > > perhaps Meat's voice was in even worse shape during the > > making of Dead Ringer - Meat said something on one of the > > documentaries about a psychosematic problem which made him > > unable to sing). Whatever the case, I do feel that Meat > > owes his best vocal Grammy for Anything For Love to Jim > > and the brilliant way he produced in the studio. I'm not > > sure about the States but Anything For Love was the best > > selling UK single in 1993 and Bat 2 was the best selling > > UK album of the same year. Who would have thought that Jim > > had to work so hard to get the vocals right? | |
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