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| You're right (Btw, I spoke to the doctor this morning and there may be a possibility you'll be able to have my children after all, LOL.) Jim is a creator of a vision much like Walt Disney, Rodgers & Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Jim Henson and so on... I think if the promotion says "Jim Steinman's Bat out of Hell" then people are finally going to know that this is Jim's vision and not just Meat Loaf singing a bunch of songs by some guy who managed to get his name printed on the bottom of the front cover. When I think "Snow White", "Pinocchio" and "Fantasia", I think Disney. When I think "Oklahoma!", "Carousel", "South Pacific", "The King and I" and "The Sound of Music", I think Rodgers & Hammerstein. And then I think Yul Brynner or Julie Andrews. When I think "Joseph", "Jesus Christ Superstar", "Evita", "Cats", "Phantom" and "Sunset Boulevard", I think Andrew Lloyd Webber. When I think "The Dark Crystal" and "Labyrinth", I think Jim Henson etc etc. Notice I'm not comparing Jim to songwriters like Lieber & Stoller who I don't think ever had a particular vision, just that they wrote songs for Elvis. Again, I can see Jim as a frustrated Jim Henson or George Lucas, working on this fantastic vision except Jabba the Hut keeps getting all the attention. I don't know how Jim feels about this though. I guess I would just be thankful that people know my souls let alone my name. Still... When people listen to Sgt. Pepper's they associate it with Lennon & McCartney as songwriters as much as they do with the Beatles performing it, but "Bat out of Hell", it's always about Meat Loaf who won't even print Jim's name on his Bat merchandise anymore, pfft.
> I guess the situation in Florida is quite different from > the UK. ALW is very famous here. The slightly tacky talent > search shows that he has hosted on BBC One for Joseph, > Sound Of Music and Oliver, have made him even more famous. > He will be searching for the perfect Wizard Of Oz Dorothy > soon. Although in America he was on the cover of Time > Magazine when Phantom opened on Broadway. I was living in > New York at the time and a lot of people were talking > about him. But it's probably easier for a rock and roll > star to be famous in a state like Florida. > > I am not being negative about Florida. I spent one holiday > in Ocala and one holiday in Orlando and I love your state. > I think it is now the most popular destination for British > tourists. Beating even Spain. > > But if it is impossible for ALW to be more famous than > Meat Loaf in Florida, then surely it is also impossible > for Jim to be more famous than Meat Loaf in Florida. Even > if "BOOH The Muiscal" has a sell out arena tour there, > with all the things you mention that Meat Loaf does, how > can Jim compete with that? I think this is what some > posters are saying when they talk about Jim being in > Meat's shadow. > > Meat Loaf wouldn't be doing all the things you are talking > about if it wasn't for his partnership with Jim and Jim > has achieved much more solid things than appearing in > commercials and taking part in game shows. Just one > example is when Jim became the first composer to have > different artists occcupying the number one and two > positions on the American Billboard Singles Chart during > the same week (with Bonnie Tyler and Air Supply). > > Yet if Meat Loaf goes to Disney World, he will be > recognised. If Jim goes to the same theme park he probably > won't be recognised. That's partly what people mean when > they talk about Meat's shadow. > > Fortunately, the UK offers Jim a better chance of public > recognition. The UK is a country where an ALW can be more > famous than a Meat Loaf. Jim is not as famous as ALW at > the moment but there is a chance that he could make it > into the same league as ALW, with the right promotional > push. Maybe not as famous as The Lord but never-the-less > famous with the average man on the street and certainly > more famous than Meat Loaf (sadly that is not the case at > the moment). > > "Jim Steinman's BOOH The Musical" could be the right > vehicle to promote Jim in the UK. This is why some posters > think that casting Meat as Hook might undermine Jim > getting the credit he deserves. I was only asking the > question regarding Meat as Hook as an academic question. > For many the shadow looks very real. > > Of course it is his entire CV that the average person > needs to be made aware of. The music critic for The > Evening Standard has called Jim a "genius". If only > everybody knew that. > > I think the UK will probably turn out to be more Jim > friendly than America. Possibly Australia (where BOOH is > the top selling album of all time) might be the only > country that is more Jim friendly than the UK. If he can > be promoted properly here, then maybe he might have a > chance of being more famous than Meat Loaf in America. > Sonenberg is promoting Pixie Lott in the UK first because > it is the best place to conquer before trying to crack the > American market. Although she is a performer. > > > I disagree. For people that go to the theater? > > Absolutely. For the vast majority of people out there? > > I don't think so. I think if I asked 100 people here in > > Florida of varied age groups who each one was, more people > > would be able to identify Meat Loaf than ALW. Meat has > > been seen on commercials,on "Don't forget the Lyrics" and > > American Idol, and has a lot of acting credits (though I > > don't think anyone will know him for many of those). > > 99% of people couldn't pick ALW out of a lineup even if > > they know who he is. | |
