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Rupert 09:57 pm UTC 05/29/10 |
| In reply to: | re: (More) Bat Musical Musings - CultOfByron 04:30 pm UTC 05/25/10 |
| I don't see why there can't be a happy middle ground for this - Have all the songs youn want with a story that is interesting but not weird. Steve Steinman makes a good living with Humour in his productions of Bat content plus I think there is a need to have Andrew Lloyd Webber sensibilities, Jim did well with on Whistle and Meat Loaf's common man touch about it. Trying to make the story too clever or arty does not play out to the attended audience. > > > > Get the feeling the project is kinda rudderless at the > > moment? I fear that if Jim is (still) in control and the > > 'driving force' then it may never happen. > > > > Forget Lord of Excess, more Lord of Procrastination? > > > > I would suggest that any projects he has had success with, > > have always seemed to have someone else at the helm? > > (Todd, Polanski, ALW and various record labels geeing the > > thing along). Not a criticism, just an observation that if > > Jim concentrates on the songs/music and someone else looks > > after the project as a whole, it gets to the finish line a > > lot quicker? > > > > I can't really comment on the current so-called producers, > > as no-one really knows who they are or what they have done > > already (apart from an Evening Standard Ad), but perhaps > > someone with a fresh impetus & perspective needs to take > > over (as what has happened with Spiderman)? > > > > Is the book too 'weird', and therefore not getting the > > financial backing? Never a huge fan of Jim's 1977 > > Neverland script, and if the new show is based on this, > > then it may be proving too weird for the money men? > > > > I can't believe there isn't the necessary investment out > > there to bankroll a musical based on BOOH songs, so it > > must be the book, right? > > > > Can Jim write great musicals ON HIS OWN? There is no > > disputing his songwriting abilities but is he a musical > > book writer? Dream Engine, Rhinegold, Neverland etc are > > all wired & wonderful in their own right, but need a lot > > of work to make them viable for Broadway/West End? > > > > Maybe a (solo) Jim Steinman book isn't right for > > Broadway/West End? Maybe as a book writer he is merely > > destined for off-broadway cultdom? > > > > Maybe it should be a film first? I can see Tim Burton > > taking Jim's script (& songs) and turning it into > > something great, with Depp as Hook. I loved what he did > > with Sweeney Todd, and I think Peter Pan is right up his > > street? > > > > Jim's scene descriptions for the show (albeit 4 years ago) > > seemed far more suited to film than a stage and I'm sure > > with Tim Burton's name attached, the project would be > > 'green lit', as they say in Hollywood (I think). > > > > Having said all that, maybe the show is just around the > > corner, as a musical, and I've just wasted 15 minutes > > talking bollocks? I hope so. LoL > > > > With the level of secrecy that usually surrounds Jim's > projects, magnified by the time it takes for them to > manifest, I'd say this is a very hard call. Bearing in > mind the Dream Engine and how very very close 'they' came > to releasing an album - I still cannot think of any good > reason why 'they' didn't - any trepidation is quite > understandable. > > It seems that if Jim wants to put this on as he envisions > it (if the book is as left-field as you say) then > absolutely off-broadway or the film idea you mention is > probably the best approach. Sadly, I feel the moneymen > want a WWRY style jukebox show. WWRY, whatever it is, it > is not art. The Bat musical has every potential to be > good art if it is allowed to be what I can only assume Jim > wants it to be. > > (inspired by Dave) ;) | |
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