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re: Jim Steinman freaks

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Vin 02:16 pm UTC 06/03/10
In reply to: re: Jim Steinman freaks - John_Galt 06:31 am UTC 06/03/10

Well put, JG.

> I've always found it funny that Steinmaniacs are so
> continuously angry at Meat for not giving Steinman enough
> credit, but then they get angry whenever he does mention
> Steinman, because the mention didn't amount to an
> expression of explicit awe-inspired worship. I'm not sure
> if I'm aware of another vocalist -- maybe Elton John --
> who so frequently mentions the writer who wrote his hits.
> Meat is still giving Jim credit and dropping his name even
> though Jim hasn't written for him for years and doesn't
> appear on the new album. Crazy.
>
> In defense of Meat, I agree with his decision to
> vigorously promote his latest work... even when it doesn't
> turn out perfect. It's his job as the front man to sell
> everyone's work and Bat III hardly sucked because of him.
> If he were to betray everyone and announce during the
> middle of promoting Bat III that it had the wrong songs by
> the wrong songwriter and production that was a lackluster
> attempt at imitating Steinman, he'd be honest, but he'd be
> biting the record company that took a chance on him. The
> better move is to claw and fight and get heartbroken
> trying to create an album that is worthy of your praise...
> then market the hell out of it. The hype he creates
> actually adds to some people's enjoyment of the record and
> is part of the experience that he contributes too beyond
> vocals. But no artists hype should be taken as a sincere
> expression of their thoughts about the value of the album.
> If they are worthy of the term artist, their is some
> aspect of a collaborative production like an album that
> they simply hate. It's hard to imagine it otherwise.
> Critical honesty can come later as it has lately in his
> comments about Bat III.
>
> Also, I should say that a pretty good measure of your
> growth as an artist is if you look back on your old stuff
> and say, "Wow that was inspired, but knowing what I know
> now, I could kick that work's ass." I know that's true of
> the web pages I work on for fun. Meat should be learning
> new technigues, new technologies, and acquiring new
> insights into what makes a great rock record and how to
> work with people to create one. Given that, it shouldn't
> surprise anyone that he's not so big on Bat III, anymore.
>
> -=John Galt=-
>
> > A recent interview were Meat has a little dig at Jim
> > and/or Steinman fans, about vocals on Bat 1?
> >
> > I always thought that Jim spent a lot of time teaching
> > Meat the phrasings for the Bat 1 songs, so that Meat
> > effectively sang them like Jim would?
> >
> > He also disses Bat 3 again. I remember, just before Bat 3
> > was released, that Meat said he listened to it in his
> > house and cried as to how good it was. Hmmmmm.
> >
> >
> >
> >


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