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re: NJC: Fuck!

Posted by:
Vin 02:23 pm UTC 06/03/10
In reply to: re: NJC: Fuck! - John_Galt 06:15 am UTC 06/03/10

I'm going to laugh, too, because I already know that knowing that I have a less than complete Meat Loaf album in my collection will ultimately be more than I can bear, and I'll cave in and buy the double-disc set. But I'll rationalize that I'm buying it for the live disc and 40-page booklet, and not just for the F-bomb and "California Isn't Big Enough."

I will say that I disagree that Meat was resorting to profanity as a marketing trick, or an attempt to be cool to the youngsters. Its only one track out of 13.

And IMO, Jim's boner line from FCOL is much dirtier, anyway.

> I'm
> going to laugh when you go back to the store and end up
> buying the two disc set, anyway, just so that you can get
> the extra material with an explicit line or two.
>
> Kind of sad to see Meat needing to throw in a little
> profanity for effect at this stage in his career or life,
> anyway. He should try to make the point with his voice
> rather than sucking face with Aspen Miller (who is too
> young for me) or cussing like the coolest kid in sixth
> grade.
>
> -=John Galt=-
> ... who doesn't really begrudge Meat for enjoying his stay
> in Aspen while it lasted.
>
>
>
> > To me, the ultimate absurdity of bleeping profanity is
> > this: when a person hears a song, or watches a movie or TV
> > show and they hear a bleeped out word, what happens? They
> > think: hmmm. A word was just bleeped out. I wonder what
> > it was? "Fuck", probably. But maybe it was "ass." Or
> > perhaps "cunt," or "cocksucker." Probably not "bitch,"
> > though, because that's more or less okay to say.
> >
> > By censoring the word, you've caused the listener to pay
> > greater attention to that one quick spot in the song, and
> > then actively consider what dirty word it was that they
> > didn't just hear, thereby exposing them to a greater level
> > of profanity than if they'd just not censored the word in
> > the first place.
> >
> > Its lunacy.
> >
> > >
> > > I agree. The absurd thing is that Meat said "California"
> > > was dropped due to it putting the cost over what Walmart
> > > wanted to pay, not due to the lyrics. Bleeping the explcit
> > > lyrics is also stupid since most of the same stores that
> > > sell the cd's have movies full of profanity on the same
> > > shelves. I don't know what store you went to but I'm
> > > guessing the record company may have done it since my wife
> > > buys Nickelback cd's at Walmart with all the lyrics
> > > intact.
> > > > Fuck. Cocksucker. So I finally get around to buying HCTB
> > > > at my local book/record store, and I decide to grab the
> > > > one-disc / no bonus live CD deal and save myself $10.00 or
> > > > so. Okay, great. Then I'm listening and I realize that
> > > > "Like a Rose" has the F-word censored out of it. Fuck,
> > > > that's bad. THEN it fucking hits me that "California
> > > > Isn't Big Enough" isn't even on the fucking record! Argh!
> > > > Now, neither of these things is that big an issue, in and
> > > > of themselves. Neither track is a high point of the album
> > > > (though each has its own charms that have grown on me to
> > > > one degree or another), but... I absolutely detest this
> > > > kind of censorship, and I hate that I've accidentally
> > > > supported it. And seriously, if they have to put special
> > > > labels on an album that HAS explicit lyrics, shouldn't
> > > > they have to label them to let you know you're holding a
> > > > censored product in your hands??? To let you know that
> > > > there is another version out there with additional lyrics
> > > > or even a whole 'nother song that you might want to buy
> > > > instead??
> > > >
> > > > FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK Fuck fuck.


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