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re: Renegades

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rockfenris2005 01:40 pm UTC 11/04/10
In reply to: re: Renegades - rockfenris2005 01:37 pm UTC 11/04/10



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>
> > > I think they might just be looking at the moon. They just
> > > didn't get that bit right enough?
> >
> > To be serious: I've never asked myself what they are
> > looking at, because I never thought there had to be
> > something [material] they'd look at.
> > I don't think there's something Corben just didn't get
> > right, on the contrary.
> >
> > To me, they just look into the wide, open, stormy space
> > surrounding them. They are surrounded by something huge
> > (maybe by "forever") that is both freedom and danger at
> > the same time. Actually, that's exactly what "the future"
> > is or that "life after birth" that waits to be led --
> > especially after you've broken out of [maybe somehow]
> > secure yet restricting circumstances.
> > It may be that which awaits you after your childhood ends.
> > That teenage time of ultimate transformation and seemingly
> > unlimited possibilities. -- You don't know what you'll
> > get, you don't know what might happen next, you're not
> > even sure yet what or who you are or may become.
> >
> > But whatever it is that's approaching: it's something new,
> > a completely new experience.
> > Anything could happen, you could become anything, nothing
> > is predefined yet, you'll never be as young and as free
> > again. Everything is possible. Whatever you choose to do
> > and wherever you choose to go will lead you somewhere
> > you've never been before.
> > That's both thrilling and frightening at the same time.
> > Total freedom is total uncertainty.
> >
> > If *anything* could happen next it might be something
> > ecstatically wonderful or it might be something
> > threatening. You'll never know until it's right there.
> > And they are both already in the middle of it, surrounded
> > by it. There's no turning back.
> >
> >
> > So. To me, this is what they are looking at (hard to put
> > into words, I'm no Jim Steinman). Considering the nature
> > of what they are facing it's not surprising they both feel
> > a bit lost. Yet they are ready to face whatever comes
> > their way, together.
> > (And luckily he's so protective and strong and
> > good-looking and she's so full of trust and love and all
> > that. So unless they're going to fall out over whose turn
> > it is to wash the dishes, they are going to make it.)
> >
> > I quite like the BFG cover art (apart from the guitar),
> > its atmosphere. Maybe even more than the BOOH covers, not
> > sure. The motorcycle stuff is a bit too trite for my
> > liking. The BFG cover art has a glint of "forever" in it
> > that I cannot find in the other covers' art work.
> >
> >
>
> That is one of the best posts on this forum I have ever
> seen, and of course I must agree when you put it like
> that. I guess I just always thought the picture was the
> least interesting out of any of the Jim album covers
> because I couldn’t see into it the way you did.
> But with that said, I still really like the 2 "Bat out of
> Hell" album covers. To me, the first album cover is a very
> stirring very powerful concept, of a man who has defied
> death to be with the one he loves. For some reason he has
> been sent to Hell, a reason which is unknown to us, but he
> is determined to escape it, and he has actually been
> willed back by the power of his obsessive love. He’s
> conquered and defied Hell itself.
> He bursts through the graveyard on his motorcycle soaring
> into the heavens, the giant Bat on the steeple actually
> roaring at the sight of him, and he's determined to ride
> away free, "Like a Bat out of Hell." And, of course, the
> irony is obvious to us.
>
> But who knows WHO the Bat might be?
> Many years later, he returns to Hell and we actually see
> that this Bat creature is in charge, ruling over what
> could be a representation of the motorcyclist's own
> private Hell.
> The motorcyclist may have died in New York, and so his own
> private Hell is this exaggerated chaotic version of New
> York where everything is out of control and the Bat is in
> charge. This is what he escaped from, to be with his love,
> but he must now try to conquer it and reconcile with his
> demons in order to have a chance at passing on, in order
> to be with the love of his life for all eternity. The
> problem now is that he also has to rescue her from the
> Bat's clutches.
> Anyway, something that's like that...
>
> "The Final at Bat" artwork would have shown the resolution
> of this character's fight, but thanks to Julie Bell & Co.
> it was just another continuing adventure and not the
> conclusion that some might have wanted (But I won't get
> into that, AGAIN.)
>
> But I love those ideas, the man returning from the death
> through the power of love, returning to Hell to face his
> demons, quite literally, and then God or Satan or somebody
> else knows what.
>
> Alternatively, considering that Jim has always had
> "Neverland" in mind with many of these creations, the
> graveyard might be a terrible location in Obsidian and the
> city is, quite obviously, Obsidian itself, and the Bat
> might be like a Ring Wraith working for Captain Hook. The
> two people in the "Bad for Good" illustration would be
> Peter and Wendy, and "Original sin" might be Wendy
> dreaming of Peter many years later.
>
> Anyway, I've done enough thinking aloud. Again, your post
> is one of the best I have seen on this forum in ages.
>

Next to Jacqueline's recent one of course!


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