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re: Hopefully Not Lost But Sad About Ray Errol Fox

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rockfenris2005 11:33 am UTC 03/10/11
In reply to: re: Hopefully Not Lost But Sad About Ray Errol Fox - rockfenris2005 07:22 am UTC 03/10/11



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>
> > > So today I dug out my old CD of The Confidence Man. The
> > > show is a constant delight and certainly, I feel, a lost
> > > jewel in the history of American theatre.
> >
> > Its a shame if any Jim shows are indeed lost. Its great
> > that a fan of Jim is bringing it up so that it is not
> > forgotten. I would also like to see more board discussion
> > about other Jim projects like "More Than You Deserve",
> > "Rhinegold" and "Wuthering Heights" (even if the last one
> > is not quite as good as "The Confidence Man".) I see that
> > it was first produced in 1976 but that Steve Margoshes
> > worked on a more elaborate version which was produced ten
> > years later. Is the CD of the 1986 production? According
> > to Amazon, people who buy "The Confidence Man" CD
> > frequently buy the CD of "Whistle Down The Wind" at the
> > same time. Obviously there are some people out there who
> > are into Jim as a theatrical writer. Hopefully it is not a
> > lost jewel but a jewel that should have more attention
> > paid to it. Perhaps more and more people will discover it
> > in time. I was sad to read on one webpage that Ray Errol
> > Fox, who wrote the lyrics, is very sick with cancer. I
> > love the lyrics that you quoted. 'On a wave of tender
> > power we'll be carried through the night,
> > Spending hour after hour 'til forever is in sight,
> > Oh think of what we have — what we have and all I'm
> > feeling
> > Isn't as revealing as when night comes stealing in...' Ray
> > is very talented. What other shows has he done? I wonder
> > if he minded that one of the show's tunes ended up in
> > "Tanz" ("Milady" became "For Sarah"). I have to hope that
> > Ray gets better. Maybe Ryan knows how he is.
>
> There have been three productions:
>
> • Manhattan Theatre Club in 1976 or 1977. This was a
> cabaret version and Mary Steenburgen, the famous actress
> who was married to Malcolm McDowell, worked as a waitress
> on this production.
> • Queen's College in December 1986. This was the first
> full production and the only way you'll ever hear the
> complete score. This is where the VHS comes from.
> • Beechmont Players in Cincinnati, Ohio in 2004. Smeghead
> and his wife were behind this production and I thought
> they did a brilliant job.
>
> And of course there's the CD from 2003 with all proceeds
> going toward Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS.

Sorry! A PORTION of the proceeds!


>
> According to the liner notes of the album, it was
> originally supposed to be produced at the New York
> Shakespeare Festival by Joseph Papp who, of course, did
> "Hair" and "A Chorus Line", and "More than you deserve"
> with Jim. But it was cancelled.
>
> There were other attempts at mounting the production with
> Len Cariou (the original Sweeney Todd) and Howard Da Silva
> (the original Jud Fry).
>
> Also, "Nocturnally yours" was the first song they ever
> wrote together, and it was then interpolated into the
> score. "Something of this masquerade may follow", which
> was written for the 1986 production, was the last song.
> They haven’t written together since.
>
> As far as I know, he's still working on revisions to "The
> Confidence Man" but I don't know if there will ever be a
> major production in his lifetime. I sure hope so. Ray is,
> in my opinion, a very talented lyricist and writer and a
> very generous person. I'd be thrilled if it did.
>
> I really wanted to see it done in Australia. I thought it
> would be something that one of the local theatre groups
> would have been interested in doing, because of how famous
> Jim’s music is, and it presented them with a rare
> opportunity, producing something that had rarely if ever
> been produced, composed by the writer of the third
> greatest selling rock album of all time. But, as usual, it
> was the same old, "Oklahoma!" next season, "My Fair Lady"
> the season after that and if they were lucky the fourth
> revival of "Les Misérables".
>
> Ray and I speak from time to time, I am HONOURED that he
> wants to hear about my progress, and you can read his blog
> at the link. He has recently posted an update.
>
> If you want to know more about his work, check out his bio
> on Wikipedia. That is based on a document that he wrote.
>
> PS. I wonder what the posters for "Rhinegold", "More than
> you deserve" and "Kid champion" were like. Has anybody
> ever seen them?
>
> PPS. Ray doesn't like the recycling but he never mentions
> anything about it in the liner notes. But this shouldn't
> be surprising. Tim Rice was very unhappy when Andrew Lloyd
> Webber recycled the score for "Cricket" into "Aspects of
> Love" and "Sunset Boulevard".
>


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