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steven_stuart 03:41 am UTC 03/13/11 |
| In reply to: | re: Hopefully Not Lost But Sad About Ray Errol Fox - rockfenris2005 07:22 am UTC 03/10/11 |
| > There have been three productions: > > • Manhattan Theatre Club in 1976 or 1977. This was a > cabaret version and Mary Steenburgen, the famous actress > who was married to Malcolm McDowell, worked as a waitress > on this production. I am a fan of both. Did you see the film about the time machine that they were both in? I wonder why they got divorced. You know so much about the history of theatre. How did you find that wonderful little piece of information? > • Queen's College in December 1986. This was the first > full production and the only way you'll ever hear the > complete score. This is where the VHS comes from. > • Beechmont Players in Cincinnati, Ohio in 2004. Smeghead > and his wife were behind this production and I thought > they did a brilliant job. Are there You Tube clips of these two productions? > And of course there's the CD from 2003 with all proceeds > going toward Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. Oh, so the album you review on Amazon is not from the 1986 production? Even though the VHS you mentioned is. Has there only beeen a VHS release from the Queen's College production? > According to the liner notes of the album, it was > originally supposed to be produced at the New York > Shakespeare Festival by Joseph Papp who, of course, did > "Hair" and "A Chorus Line", and "More than you deserve" > with Jim. But it was cancelled. Why was it cancelled by Papp? BTW, I have read negative things that Papp had to say about "More Than You Deserve" (like in the Paul Shaffer autobiography). How did it actually do? At least it introduced Jim to Meat. > There were other attempts at mounting the production with > Len Cariou (the original Sweeney Todd) and Howard Da Silva > (the original Jud Fry). Really? Who tried to mount the Len Cariou one? I can remember how big he was when Sweeny Todd opened on Broadway. Someone must have been taking "The Confidence Man" very seriously. > Also, "Nocturnally yours" was the first song they ever > wrote together, and it was then interpolated into the > score. "Something of this masquerade may follow", which > was written for the 1986 production, was the last song. > They haven’t written together since. I heard a rumour (just a rumour) that there was some disagreement over songs that were written for "The Confidence Man" being used for other theatre and pop/rock projects. > As far as I know, he's still working on revisions to "The > Confidence Man" but I don't know if there will ever be a > major production in his lifetime. I sure hope so. Ray is, > in my opinion, a very talented lyricist and writer and a > very generous person. I'd be thrilled if it did. Yes. What other shows has he worked on (if any)? > I really wanted to see it done in Australia. I thought it > would be something that one of the local theatre groups > would have been interested in doing, because of how famous > Jim’s music is, and it presented them with a rare > opportunity, producing something that had rarely if ever > been produced, composed by the writer of the third > greatest selling rock album of all time. But, as usual, it > was the same old, "Oklahoma!" next season, "My Fair Lady" > the season after that and if they were lucky the fourth > revival of "Les Misérables". Oh dear. Its amazing that you have got the funding for "Don Claude: Cannibal Rapture" when that attitude exists. you should be really, really proud of yourself. > Ray and I speak from time to time, I am HONOURED that he > wants to hear about my progress, and you can read his blog > at the link. He has recently posted an update. > > If you want to know more about his work, check out his bio > on Wikipedia. That is based on a document that he wrote. Thats cool. He sounds like a very decent person. > PS. I wonder what the posters for "Rhinegold", "More than > you deserve" and "Kid champion" were like. Has anybody > ever seen them? No. Although there is a picture of a strange man in costume on the first page of my copy of the "Rhinegold" script. I don't know if he was part of the poster. Its not Barry. > PPS. Ray doesn't like the recycling but he never mentions > anything about it in the liner notes. But this shouldn't > be surprising. Tim Rice was very unhappy when Andrew Lloyd > Webber recycled the score for "Cricket" into "Aspects of > Love" and "Sunset Boulevard". Didn't you say that ALW lifted an entire melody from "The Beautiful Game" and plonked it down in "Love Never Dies"? | |
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