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rockfenris2005 09:23 am UTC 03/15/11 |
| In reply to: | re: "Something Of This Masquerade May Follow" - steven_stuart 01:01 am UTC 03/15/11 |
> > Maybe I was being a bit too harsh. I don't know. > > You were being too harsh on yourself. You are a true > artist. Why, thank you. Comments like these make it all worth it. So encouraging. > > > > > But "The Confidence Man" is among my Top 12 favourite > > > > musicals ever. The others are "Carousel", "My Fair Lady", > > > > "Jesus Christ Superstar", "The Rocky Horror Show", "The > > > > Confidence Man", "Evita", "Sweeney Todd", "The Phantom Of > > > > The Opera", "Miss Saigon", "Titanic", "Tanz Der Vampire" > > > > and "The Scarlet Pimpernel". > > Did you like the film version of "Grease"? I do, but musically I prefer the sequel "Grease 2". This is also the case with "Shock Treatment", the "equal" to "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". Btw, have you ever seen "Phantom of the Paradise", the Brian DePalma film with songs by Paul Williams? I might have mentioned it on the board in the past. But I love it, and will often watch it with "Rocky Horror" and "Shock Treatment", after I read something online. It's brilliant. So many songs that I love, "Goodbye, Eddie, Goodbye", "Faust" ("I was not myself last night/Couldn't set things right with apologies or flowers/Out of place as a crying clown/Who could only frown/And the play went on for hours/And as I lived my role/I swore I'd sell my soul for ONE LOVE/Who would stand by me/AND GIVE ME BACK THE GIFT OF LAUGHTER/One LOVE/Who would sing my song/And after making love we'd dream a bit of style...Dream a bunch of friends...Dream each other's smile...And dream it never ends...") I just remmebered that off the top of my head :S I notice that > "Carousel" is your favourite Rodgers and Hammerstein. > Interesting. This would make a good thread. Shall we start > one? > I'm not sure. But those two moments in "Carousel", "If I loved you" and "You'll never walk alone" are some of the greatest moments in the history of all musical theatre, I think. And of course the Soliloquy is magnificent. I need to listen to this score again. I haven't heard it in quite some time. > > I > > > wonder why "Jekyll and Hyde" got a British touring > > > production and "Pimpernel" didn't. > > > > I wonder the same thing. I think it's better than "Jekyll" > > but maybe the source material isn't as popular. > > Yes. The source material. Well put. This could also go > into the new thread mentioned above. > > > > > All of these musicals have very beautiful moments that > > > > almost reduce me to tears. (You're probably wondering why > > > > "Les Miserables" wasn't mentioned. It's undeniably a great > > > > musical but I was much more moved by "Miss Saigon", and I > > > > still am to this day. It's not like that with "Les Mis".) > > > > > > > > But "The Confidence Man" has so many beautiful moments, > > > > for me, but the most beautiful of all is the last song, > > > > "Something of this masquerade may follow". Wow. You hear > > > > so many Steinfans saying that "For crying out loud" is > > > > their favourite Jim song, and I agree with them, but this > > > > is definitely up there. > > > > > > A lot of people seem to like "For Crying Out Loud" best. > > > > > > > I knew that it had the same tune as the chorus for "Braver > > > > than we are" but there were all these other parts that he > > > > didn't reuse (Thank God.) > > > > > > > > "Something of this masquerade may follow > > > > Enter someone in disguise > > > > Clad in truth and cloaked in lies" > > > > > > > > The music there is the chorus for "Braver than we are", > > > > then it changes (and it's very pretty): > > > > > > > > "Baring and unmasking every hollow > > > > And something of this masquerade may follow > > > > > > > > Something of this big parade may catch us > > > > Enter someone beating drums > > > > Tempting fate and down it comes > > > > Threatening to discover and dispatch us > > > > And something of this big parade > > > > Something of this mass charade > > > > Something of this masquerade may follow" > > > > > > The lyrics for "Something Of This Masquerade May Follow" > > > are wonderful. I can see why Ray might have been unhappy > > > if the melody was used for other purposes but I guess "The > > > Confidence Man" wasn't doing much when that happened. What > > > a shame that it didn't reach a bigger audience. > > > > > > > That's the clever thing about it. It wasn't all reused. > > Jim only took the music for the first three lines and used > > it for the chorus of "Braver than we are". Everything else > > in "Braver than we are" is new, as far as I know. > > > > And as for Jim reusing the music, I reiterate what Stephen > > Collins said, he thought it was because he wanted the > > music to reach a wider audience, and at the time "Tanz" > > was going to do that and "The Confidence Man" wasn't. And > > remember, Jim's songs are his children. And he didn't want > > these particular pieces of music to be unacknowledged and > > unappreciated in his lifetime? > > Yes. I understand what you are saying about "Tanz". > > Unfortunately it looked like "The Confidence Man" was not > doing much. Although I think there is a chance that it > will find an audience in time. > > > > > Love it. Love it, love it, love it, love it, LOVE IT!!! > > > > > > I agree. I agree. I AGREE!!!! | |
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