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rockfenris2005 04:28 pm UTC 05/15/11 |
| In reply to: | re: Paul Crook producing Hell In A Handbasket - Wilbury 04:16 pm UTC 05/15/11 |
> If it isn't a real psychological issue on Meat's part, the > only other thing I can think of is that he is a REAL prick > to work with. Like, just total arsehole to work with in > the studio. Eats people's lunches from the fridge, runs > over the cat on the way to the studio, never refills the > toilet paper when he finishes a role. I don't know. But I don't think he had a lot of control on Bat 2. I've heard stories. How Jim was an insane perfectionist who made Meat record dozens and dozens and dozens of takes for each line. And doing that at night, because Jim leads a nocturnal existence, bloody hell... Bugger that!!! I can't imagine he would have had much control over Jim's baby, though he did get a credit for co-arranging the songs with the band. > > That would explain the rapid turnover of producers and > songwriters, even when he explicitly expresses a desire to > work with them again. And then there's the record labels, which you realize makes it infernally difficult to release a box set. I wouldn't expect anything like Beatles Anthology or Pink Floyd Oh, by the way because ALL of the different labels would have to cooperate in order for something to be released. That's the reason why half the crappy compilations stop in the 80s because they don't have access to the other albums. I'm surprised he isn't recording his new one on ANOTHER label. I thought he might have gotten a 3 album deal, unless TMIL was SUCH a disappointment that he demanded another album, bahahaha. > > For all that he talks about working with these people > again, Jim is in fact the ONLY producer he has worked with > more than once (Bat 2 --> No Matter What, even if Bat 1 > doesn't count. Which actually, I don't think it does. That > would have been Todd showing them how it's done cause they > must have both been pretty green). Mmmm, the recent Jim demos have made me doubt just how involved he was with the production. Or was it simply that whoever produced the demos convinced him to make them Country and Western because it was the only way he could make his music commercial? Hmmmm........ > > > > > And as I said before, it would take an earthquake to stop > > him from working with Tom Dowd! It's all here, in the tour > > programme! He actually says that! > > > > Ahahahahahahaaa! > > > > It makes me wonder what a conversation between all his > > producers would be like. I think it would be very > > amusing. > > > > > Are you kidding? In 5 or 10 years he won't like ANY of the > > > songs on Hang Cool Teddy Bear. It's sad, really. He made a > > > comment in his autobiography about not being able to tell > > > good from bad when he was in a rut around the time of > > > Midnite At The Lost and Found. > > > > > > Well I don't think he can ever tell good from bad. That's > > > why on minute he hits the ground running on things a > > > million miles an hour and then the next says he hates > > > them. ALSO, I have noticed he seems to put a LOT of > > > reliance on the producer. I can't think of too many other > > > professional artists whose output varies so RADICALLY > > > depending on who is helming the project?? > > > > > > He appears to have an initial idea, and then execute it by > > > doing whatever the people he surrounds himself with wants > > > to do. You want some spanish on there Desmond? Great, some > > > spanish it is. You tell me If God Could Talk is a great > > > song? Oh wow, you're so right. > > > > > > Holy crap, have you met this Rob Cavallo guy? Fucking > > > GREAT guy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the light of all this, about 5 or 10 years from now, > > > > when he's no longer singing (God, I hope that's the > > > > case...) I hope he can actually sit down and discuss his > > > > thoughts on all of the albums, in hindsight, without > > > > having to promote anything. > > > > > > > > I want that to happen. He must like some things from > > > > "Midnight" and "Blind before I stop" etc. He probably > > > > doesn't like at least one song from "Hang Cool Teddy > > > > Bear"? He probably wishes that they'd recorded the > > > > original version of "All revved up". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haha, yeah I really like the song too. > > > > > > > > > > But hey, the guy is clearly severely bi-polar. He can't > > > > > hold on to an opinion / feeling / emotion for more than > > > > > the length of your average marketing campaign. > > > > > > > > > > The only thing I'm not sure of is whether he ACTUALLY > > > > > believes all the hype he puts out in the media or not. I > > > > > don't think he does, I think he just goes through the > > > > > motions about how frigging fantastic everything is. > > > > > > > > > > The classic example is when he was crapping on in > > > > > interviews about how Michael Beinhorn is crazier than > > > > > Steinman, because Steinman is a double scorpio, but > > > > > Beinhorn is a TRIPLE scorpio, and that makes him so crazy > > > > > and great and amazingly fantastic. Fast forward 6 months > > > > > and he's saying the EXACT same thing about Desmond. Like, > > > > > the exact same 'Triple Scorpio' shit. > > > > > > > > > > My google skills are currently failing me, but see if you > > > > > can find it, it's hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I remember when we were all calling it Funhouse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The version of the cover art they ended up with is great, > > > > > > > tho. References the original piece of art really nicely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What has Meat said about Man of Steel? All I've read is > > > > > > > him saying how James MIchael and Nikki Sixx 'outwrote > > > > > > > Steinman' and 'threw in the kitchen sink' etc etc when he > > > > > > > was selling the album, as he does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean that? Or has he since revised down his > > > > > > > opinion?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone here could find the exact quote if they had enough > > > > > > time, but basically he said on his forum recently that he > > > > > > now thinks it's a terrible song, or something or other. I > > > > > > can't remember exactly what he said, but it was > > > > > > resoundingly negative! > > > > > > > > > > > > He just turned on this song completely! I never would have > > > > > > guessed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I like this song! Screw him! > > > > > > | |
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