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re: A few Meat Loaf Steinman questions

Posted by:
Wilbury 03:15 pm UTC 05/20/11
In reply to: re: A few Meat Loaf Steinman questions - Klasien 03:05 pm UTC 05/20/11

Wowsers, I'll have to listen to it more closely !?

(But the band that recorded the released version of RnR Dreams is not the same that did the backing tracks for dead ringer tho, right? So it'd be a different version to any version meat may have recorded??)

> >
> > > A few Meat Loaf + Steinman questions that I ponder from
> > > time to time:
> > >
> > > • Meat says the song Dead Ringer For Love was traded w/
> > > Jim for RnR Dreams, after both of their respective albums
> > > were already underway. And this appears to be
> > > substantiated by the different lineup of musicians that
> > > play on dead ringer for love, suggesting it was recorded
> > > at a different time to the others. So, this begs the
> > > question, did meat ever record RnR dreams in 80/81? Did
> > > Todd + the Bad For Good band ever record Dead Ringer For
> > > Love? Did Jim ever attempt a proper vocal on it?
> >
> > That's what I'm curious about. I used to think I could
> > hear Meat Loaf humming at the very start of Jim's "Rock
> > and roll dreams".
> > >
>
>
> Cool!! I'm not the only one who hears Meat in that!!
>
>
> > > • Why did meat record so FEW steinman tracks thru-out the
> > > 80s? Even tho his label didnt want to pay for Steinmans
> > > involvement, it Dddn't occur to him to simply cover a
> > > single one of the BFG tracks during the Tom Dowd sessions?
> > > After the two from Bad Attitude, both excellent, he didn't
> > > consider any others for Blind Before I Stop? As far as I'm
> > > aware, the recording sessions for all three of his 80s
> > > albums was before he got back in touch with Jim re a Bat2
> > > project, thus there's no reason I can SEE for him not to
> > > have done frying pan or lost boys. Other than his morbid
> > > fear of repeating himself artistically (which, despite the
> > > at times crappy results, is actually quite admirable).
> > > Maybe there are more than the two that were released??
> >
> > Maybe he wanted to record these songs but Jim said, "why
> > don't we save it for Bat 2?"
> >
> > I remember reading once that they started talking about
> > Bat 2 in 1984! Wish I could find the link for that.
> > >
> > > • did meat ACTUALLY record a finished version of all
> > > coming back for neighbourhood?
> >
> > No idea. And what would have replaced it on the album,
> > storywise? "Martha"? "Where angels sing"?
> >
> > Again, I remember reading once that Jim recommended
> > "Martha" to Meat Loaf.
> > >
> > > Have I missed any other bits and pieces of the meat and
> > > Jim story that beg for a little more explanation? Does
> > > anyone think we have any hope of ever hearing this stuff,
> > > if any of it exists?
> > >
> >
> > I don't know of anything else, but (and you're most likely
> > going to disagree with this) I think "Who needs the
> > young?" should have been on Bat 1.
> >


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