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Wilbury 01:48 am UTC 06/20/11 |
| In reply to: | Welcome To The Neighbourhood Vs Bat Out Of Hell 3: The Monster Is Loose - steven_stuart 11:45 pm UTC 06/19/11 |
| Something weird is happening to me. I've always liked Neighbourhood. I've never had a problem with its so called 'imitation' of Steinman's style. In fact I've always thought that is an unfair accusation. But recently I've been finding it a little boring. And I've started listening to TMiL for the first time in years, and the whole thing is a lot better than I remember it. I had written the entire thing off as shit. And while the arrangements and Meat's vocals still annoy me in some parts, if I can try to not be too picky then on the whole it ain't bad at all. Sure it's not a real Bat 3 without Jim etc etc, but as an album its actually pretty good. For as much as the Desmond pretending to do Bat 3 thing was one big farce, if it was the shake-up that Meat needed to get him out of the adult contemporary AOR thing that he was doing on Neighbourhood and CHSIB, then maybe it wasn't ALL bad. ALSO on the subject of safe adult contemporary muzak, I sure wish Meat would stop recording with Tim Pierce. > Chika asked: > > > Do you have a big collection of mr Steinmans music? > > I have a fairly big collection but my collection is not > nearly as complete as Ryan's collection. For example, I > don't have the Stoney and Meat Loaf album and I believe > that Ryan has the original vinyl in his collection. I have > the ordinary Welcome To The Neighbourhood but I thought > that the Diane Warren songs (which were the hit releases) > were an attempt to imitate Jim. There are songwriters like > Ryan who are influenced by Jim but they do not imitate > Jim. Even the first video, "I'd Lie For You", picks up > where the video for "Anything For Love" ends. As you know, > WTTN was the first release after Bat 2 and I think that > they were attempting not only to capitalise on Bat 2's > enormous success but to make it sound like the follow > album was a Steinman album. Of course one could argue that > there are two covers of Jim's songs on WTTN but Bat 3 > contained a cover of "Its All Coming Back To Me Now" and > many people were very critical of Meat for putting Bat 3 > out (including Jim and Ryan). To me the main difference > between the two is that WTTN does not use the official > BOOH brand name. So, Chika, to answer your question, yes, > I have a fairly large collection of Jim's music but I > won't be buying the new WTTN. I bought Bat 3 out of > curiosity. Its not that I don't respect Meat Loaf. He is a > wonderful actor and he often gives Jim a lot of credit > during interviews. Nobody else has understood Jim's music > like Meat. But I worry about WTTN becuase of the way it > followed Bat 2 and I worry about Bat 3 because it used the > BOOH brand name even though Jim didn't work on it. I do > have a copy of WTTN somewhere but I feel no need to > purchase the the special edition. Ryan, on the other hand, > is a real collector and I would bet good money that he > purchases the new release. Actually I would be interested > to know if anyone on the board wants to compare WTTN with > Bat 3. Also, is this new special edition of WTTN worth the > extra money? Will there one day be a special edition of > Bat 3: The Monster Is Loose? | |
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