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re: Welcome To The Neighbourhood Vs Bat Out Of Hell 3: The Monster Is Loose

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rockfenris2005 08:03 am UTC 06/20/11
In reply to: Welcome To The Neighbourhood Vs Bat Out Of Hell 3: The Monster Is Loose - steven_stuart 11:45 pm UTC 06/19/11



> Chika asked:
>
> > Do you have a big collection of mr Steinmans music?
>
> I have a fairly big collection but my collection is not
> nearly as complete as Ryan's collection. For example, I
> don't have the Stoney and Meat Loaf album and I believe
> that Ryan has the original vinyl in his collection. I have
> the ordinary Welcome To The Neighbourhood but I thought
> that the Diane Warren songs (which were the hit releases)
> were an attempt to imitate Jim. There are songwriters like
> Ryan who are influenced by Jim but they do not imitate
> Jim. Even the first video, "I'd Lie For You", picks up
> where the video for "Anything For Love" ends. As you know,
> WTTN was the first release after Bat 2 and I think that
> they were attempting not only to capitalise on Bat 2's
> enormous success but to make it sound like the follow
> album was a Steinman album.

Also, interestingly enough, it was originally supposed to be called "Escape from Hell: Welcome to the Neighbourhood". That's what it says on my promo single (I don't know if it's a promo for the album or "I'd lie for you". It doesn't really say.)

Of course one could argue that
> there are two covers of Jim's songs on WTTN but Bat 3
> contained a cover of "Its All Coming Back To Me Now" and
> many people were very critical of Meat for putting Bat 3
> out (including Jim and Ryan). To me the main difference
> between the two is that WTTN does not use the official
> BOOH brand name.

And, indeed, Meat fought against using it. I wish he'd done that in 2006.

So, Chika, to answer your question, yes,
> I have a fairly large collection of Jim's music but I
> won't be buying the new WTTN. I bought Bat 3 out of
> curiosity. Its not that I don't respect Meat Loaf. He is a
> wonderful actor and he often gives Jim a lot of credit
> during interviews. Nobody else has understood Jim's music
> like Meat. But I worry about WTTN becuase of the way it
> followed Bat 2 and I worry about Bat 3 because it used the
> BOOH brand name even though Jim didn't work on it. I do
> have a copy of WTTN somewhere but I feel no need to
> purchase the the special edition. Ryan, on the other hand,
> is a real collector and I would bet good money that he
> purchases the new release.

Well, you just won that bet :P But I wasn't planning on getting it. An opportunity arose and I said, yeah alright, lol. But I wouldn't have bought it online.

Actually I would be interested
> to know if anyone on the board wants to compare WTTN with
> Bat 3.

WTTN wins every time for me. It's produced better. It's more consistent. It's sincere. It's a decent concept album.

Also, is this new special edition of WTTN worth the
> extra money?

I don't think so, no.

Will there one day be a special edition of
> Bat 3: The Monster Is Loose?

I think that's inevitable.



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