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steven_stuart 02:08 pm UTC 04/26/13 |
| In reply to: | re: Jim Can Also Be Very Experimental - nowhere_fast 08:57 am UTC 04/26/13 |
| > > > IMHO the Runt has one overarching quality that Jim lacks > > > ... experimentation- sometimes it works sometimes it > > > doesn't - I think Jim *was* a more consistent songwriter > > > > Why the NJC classification? It's difficult to talk about > > Todd without talking about Jim. > > > > Also, Jim's Nutz project is very experimental. He is not > > just writing the lyrics (although that would be enough to > > prove once again that Jim is a genius). > > > > Despite a lot of help from Steve Margoshes and Jeff Bova, > > as well as the basic melodies being supplied by > > Tchaikovsky, the song concepts are by Jim. > > > > Also, in the early days, Jim was very experimental. As you > > know, Clive Davis tried to teach him how to write a three > > minute pop song and Jim ignored him and continued writing > > his unique Wagnerian rock pieces. > > > > To me, Paradise By The Dashboard Light was very > > experimental. > > Its not that hard to talk about Todd without bringing up > Jim. > Todd has done a number of album in all sorts of styles > under his own name or with Utopia. > You could talk for hours about Todds stuff and never even > go near his Jim work. Yes. Probably I shouldn't have said that. It was just that the NJC was followed by a Todd and Jim comparison. I personally feel that Jim is very experimental. I know that Todd is also very experimental. Well, he was being very experimental when he took BOOH on. Didn't Jim say that many people couldn't understand it but Todd got it right away? For me, as a Jim fan, it's difficult to think of Todd without thinking about BOOH and Jim. BOOH is by far the biggest thing in both Todd's career and Jim's career. And there are other things that link them. Like Kasim Sulton played Todd's music in Utopia and Jim's music with Meat Loaf. I can assure you that I have great respect for Todd. In the other post I made in this thread, I talked about how much he made from BOOH. I think he deserves every penny. Of course he has done many interesting things that didn't involve Jim. One example of something very cool that he has done was when he wrote the songs for Joe Orton's Up Against It. Orton originally wrote it for The Beatles but Brian Epstein rejected it because it was too sexual for his boys. How amazing that Todd picked the project up more than two decades later. The off Broadway musical was fairly successful. It was an interesting experiment. Although, once again there is a link to Jim. Joe Papp produced both Up Against It and More Than You Deserve. | |
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