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re: The Batman Musical

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rockfenris2005 06:05 pm UTC 05/02/21
In reply to: re: The Batman Musical - Evan 09:00 am UTC 05/02/21


If they had managed to get it right, I think it would have been sensational. It's that version I really believe in. You should watch the Tim Burton Batman movies sometime, and then keep in the back of your mind what Jim would have done with a musical. It starts getting really, really exciting then, especially when the Joker and Catwoman characters come in.

> Thank you for posting. It’s sad to see that the failure of
> Dance of the Vampires likely caused some of the pushback
> with the Batman musical. This is the first I’ve heard of
> this, although it certainly makes sense. Tanz itself
> preserves all of the dark and gothic themes that I imagine
> to be prevalent in a true Batman musical, however look at
> how those were translated to Broadway in DOTV. For all we
> know the same thing could’ve happened to the Batman
> musical if the wrong people were given creative control.
> Hopefully that wouldn’t have been the case but who knows?
> It also could’ve been spectacular. One things for sure, it
> would’ve received a lot of publicity.
>
> >
> > Thank you :-)
> >
> > Let's see what I've got in my archives.
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > DB: I heard that at one point you were trying to put
> > together a Batman musical on Broadway. What happened
> > there?
> >
> > TB: They approached me about that and I was interested
> > because I liked Jim Steinman; I met him a few times, and
> > thought he did some great stuff. But at the end of the
> > day, seeing this guy prancing around and singing, I don’t
> > know. Look what happened to Spider-Man, right? [Laughs]
> >
> > End Quote.
> >
> > That's from a Tim Burton interview from 17 December 2014
> > in the Daily Beast.
> >
> > Here's another one from Gregg Maday, who started the whole
> > project.
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > As Warner Bros. tries again to hit the jackpot on Broadway
> > with a $21 million musical adaptation of Beetlejuice, the
> > future of its theatre arm remains uncertain.
> >
> > The Hollywood film studio first considered creating a
> > division to produce live stage shows after witnessing
> > Disney’s success bringing Beauty and the Beast to Broadway
> > in 1994. The popular musical made over $35 million in
> > ticket sales during its first year on the Great White Way,
> > and spawned five replica productions in 1995.
> >
> > “I had been following the success of Disney,” explained
> > its founder, Gregg Maday, “and it looked to me like our
> > two companies were very similar in how they were
> > structured, and how they viewed the business.” Like
> > Disney, Warner Bros. had an extensive catalog of popular
> > films that could be adapted, and also dabbled in the theme
> > park and retail businesses.
> >
> > Maday recognized that mounting a Broadway show could
> > create multiple revenue streams for Warner Bros. In
> > addition to making money from ticket sales, “[e]ven a
> > semi-successful show can restore an old movie’s luster in
> > the DVD market and give rise to a slew of video games,
> > road companies, toys, T-shirts and collectibles,” observed
> > one writer.
> >
> > “When it works, it can be magic,” commented Mark Kaufman,
> > who now leads the theatre division.
> >
> > But, when Maday “started to pitch the idea internally, it
> > was not very well received,” he said. “No one was focused
> > on it,” and “[n]obody cared,” he remembered. For a
> > Hollywood film studio, “it did not look like it was a
> > mainstream business,” Maday stated.
> >
> > Madam continued to push for a theatre division, and he
> > recalled that “it finally got to the point where I got
> > every division head at the studio to get together in one
> > room, and I made a formal presentation to them about how
> > this would benefit every division in the company if we
> > were to get into the theatre business.”
> >
> > “My point of view was that it was a dream stream of
> > revenues,” explained Maday. Warner Bros. could produce its
> > own shows like Disney and benefit from the “enormous
> > upside to owning something,” and it could also license its
> > films to other Broadway producers to adapt like MGM and
> > “create another form of revenue.”
> >
> > After the presentation, Terry Semel, the co-chief
> > executive officer at Warner Bros, glanced around the
> > conference room.
> >
> > “Whoever got all these people together should really be
> > rewarded,” Semel joked. “It is very difficult to do that,”
> > he said, telling Maday to “just take some money, and go do
> > something.”
> >
> > Maday hired prolific Broadway producer Manny Azenberg as a
> > consultant, and started looking through the Warner Bros.
> > library. “I put together a 22-page study of all the
> > different titles that I thought could translate to the
> > stage,” Maday recalled.
> >
> > But, of all the Academy Award-winning films that Warner
> > Bros. had produced over the years, Maday chose to make a
> > musical about the D.C. superhero “Batman.”
> >
> > The composer of the chart-topping rock album Bat Out of
> > Hell, Jim Steinman, learned about the show, “and he really
> > put a full court press on” to write the music, Maday
> > remembered. “Jim thought that he was the perfect guy,” he
> > said, adding that Steinman’s “gothic rock n’ roll did
> > translate to that world.”
> >
> > “This is a very exciting project that Jim was born to
> > write,” commented Steinman’s manager, David Sonenberg,
> > while a contract was still being negotiated.
> >
> > To write the script, executives from Warner Bros.
> > approached veteran playwright David Ives. “Even though he
> > was new to the form, I think that he wrote a terrific
> > book,” Maday commented. It focused on the formation of
> > “Batman,” and “I always thought the beginning of ‘Batman’
> > was like Hamlet,” he said.
> >
> > Tim Burton, who directed two “Batman” films for Warner
> > Bros., expressed some interest in directing the musical.
> > He was disappointed in how the later films released in the
> > “Batman” franchise were written, and he wanted to
> > “re-establish his original vision” and “redeem the soul of
> > the ‘Batman’ series,” according to one industry insider.
> >
> > But, after Dance of the Vampires, another musical with
> > songs from Jim Steinman and a script from David Ives, shut
> > after 56 performances on Broadway in 2003, nobody wanted
> > to be linked to a show from the same creative team. “I
> > could not find a director,” Maday complained.
> >
> > The planned musical about the “Caped Crusader” collapsed.
> >
> > End Quote
> >
> > That's from 28 March 2019 in Forbes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > That was extremely entertaining! Thank you so much for
> > > posting it. I always thought a Batman musical if done
> > > properly, would’ve been huge on Broadway. It would’ve been
> > > wild and exciting. Especially with Jim’s involvement. I
> > > wish it had happened. Didn’t Tim Burton’ make some kind of
> > > statement regarding it years ago? I can’t remember what he
> > > said or if he was enthusiastic about it or not?
> >
> >


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