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steven_stuart 09:13 am UTC 05/05/21 |
| In reply to: | re: A Song is a Terrible Thing to Waste - Jacqueline 03:05 pm UTC 05/04/21 |
| I agree with JD. Yaay! A JD post! Ryan really is The Historian. > Stunning and important word Ryan. Thank you. > > > > Let's have a look at Jim's recycling. "I've written one > > song in my life but it's full of lots of movements and > > about 200 hours long." > > > > The Dream Engine (1969) > > > > 1. The Invocation and Formation of the Tribe (Come in the > > Night) --- the verses become 'Turn around bright eyes' in > > 'Total Eclipse of the Heart'. > > > > 2. Who Needs the Young? --- the music for the choruses > > reappear in the crypt scene from 'Tanz der Vampire'. > > > > 3. Hymn to Fire (When Your City's Burning) --- the intro > > is 'The Storm' from 'Bad for Good'. Much of this music > > also appears in the 'Instrumental' from 'Kid Champion'. > > > > 4. Entr'acte --- the first section becomes the intro for > > 'Stark Raving Love', the second section is the music from > > 'Happy Ending' Jim's first released song, and the last > > section is the music for the second half of 'Bad for > > Good'. > > > > 5. Mother River Song --- this was based on 'Song of the > > Ganges River' from 'A Man's A Man', the first score Jim > > wrote at Amherst in 1968. The middle section becomes the > > dance music for 'Give me the Simple Life' from 'More Than > > You Deserve'. > > > > 6. Song of the Dream Engine (Hear the Screams) --- see the > > last section of 4. Entr'acte. > > > > 7. The Revolution in Music --- reappears as 'The > > Annihilation' in 'Neverland'. > > > > The Good Woman of Setzuan (1971) > > > > 8. The Water Seller Song --- the intro music is reused as > > the beginning of 'City Night' from 'Neverland' > > > > 9. Smoke Song --- the music for the choruses is 'And I > > need all the love I can get' from Jim and Andrew > > Eldritch's 'More' > > > > 10. Song of the Gods --- the music becomes 'Great Boleros > > of Fire' and then 'Eternity' from 'Tanz der Vampire'. > > > > More Than You Deserve (1973): > > > > 11. Give me the Simple Life --- see 5. Mother River Song. > > > > 12. Could she be the One? --- the music of the middle > > section is 'Souvenirs', a demo from this musical later > > recorded on 'Braver Than We Are'. > > > > 13. Come With Me... We Know Love --- the music reappears > > in 'At the Castle' from 'Tanz der Vampire'. Fragments of > > the music also appear in 'For Crying Out Loud', 'Left in > > the Dark', 'The Future Ain't What it Used to Be' and > > 'Carpe Noctem'. > > > > 14. Song of the City of Hope --- the music becomes 'Lost > > Boys and Golden Girls'. The music also appears in the film > > score for 'A Small Circle of Friends' and Rory's demo of > > 'Vaults of Heaven (Her Hymn)'. > > > > 15. Go, Go, Go Guerrillas --- parts of the music are > > reused in 'Wonderful Toys' from 'Batman'. > > > > 16. If Only --- the title is reused for 'Whistle down the > > Wind'. The music for the choruses is the 'Carpe Noctem' > > lines in 'Carpe Noctem'. > > > > 17. Song of the Golden Egg --- similar to parts of the > > pre-chorus from 'Nocturnally Yours' in 'The Confidence > > Man', the chorus music also turns up in 'God has Left the > > Building' from 'Dance of the Vampires'. > > > > Rhinegold (1973) > > > > 18. Godz --- the first section becomes the intro for 'All > > Revved Up' in 'Neverland'. Part of these lyrics wind up in > > 'Tonight is What it Means to be Young'. > > > > 19. Chinkachain --- much of the music reappears in the Kid > > Champion 'Instrumental' as well as 'The Hunt' from > > 'Neverland'. It also appears in the instrumental for > > 'Graveyard Shift' from 'Batman'. > > > > 20. Who'd do the Dirty? --- some of the music appears in > > the Kid Champion 'Instrumental'. > > > > 21. Master of the Earth --- the middle section contains > > music that appeared in 'The Hunt' as well as 'Pain > > Humbles' in 'The Confidence Man', 'Catwoman's Song' in > > 'Batman' and the second part of 'The Storm'. > > > > 22. Hushabye --- the music is very similar to the first > > section of 'Come With Me... We Know Love'. > > > > 23. Rainbow --- this entire song became half of 'Song of > > the City of Hope' in the main production of 'More Than You > > Deserve'. It sounds like Meat Loaf is singing backing > > vocals on the demo. Also, see 14. Song of the City of > > Hope. > > > > Yvonne Elliman: Food of Love (1973) > > > > 24. Happy Ending --- see 4. Entr'acte. > > > > Bloodshot Wine (1975) > > > > 25. Private of Privates --- the intro is similar to 'Death > > is Such an Odd Thing' from 'Tanz der Vampire'. The music > > for the last section appears again in 'All Revved Up' in > > 'Neverland' and even the middle section of 'Holding out > > for a Hero'. > > > > The Confidence Man (1977) > > > > 26. New Orleans is Comin' to Me --- the music becomes 'The > > Future Ain't What it Used to Be' from Pandora's Box: > > Original Sin (1989). Also, see 13. Come With Me... > > > > 27. Melville's Theme --- the music is all of the verses > > from 'It Just Won't Quit'. > > > > 28. Edging into Darkness --- the music for the first > > section is 'Hear the Screams' from 'Dream Engine' which > > becomes the music for the second part of 'Bad for Good', > > and later 'Graveyard Shift' from 'Batman'. Music for the > > second section sounds like the chorus to 'Bat out of > > Hell'. The last section is the riff of 'Making Love out of > > Nothing at All'. Jim came up with that at Amherst. > > > > 29. Nocturnally Yours --- the music for the opening and > > all of the verses reappears in the film score for 'A Small > > Circle of Friends'. > > > > 30. Pain Humbles --- see 21. Master of the Earth. > > > > 31. Sanctimonious Sambo --- the intro sounds like 'I'm > > Gonna Love her for Both of Us' from Dead Ringer (1981). > > > > 32. Milady --- the music reappears in 'A Small Circle of > > Friends' and 'Tanz der Vampire' as 'For Sarah'. It was > > also used in an unreleased song Jim wrote called 'Vaults > > of Heaven' (which has the same title as a song from > > 'Whistle down the Wind'.) > > > > 33. Something of this Masquerade May Follow --- the intro > > music is the 'Dead Ringer' intro for 'More Than You > > Deserve', which is reused in 'The Future Ain't What it > > Used to Be'. The music for the choruses becomes the chorus > > for 'Braver Than We Are' (but only half of it.) That music > > was originally a song from Jim's score for a musical > > called 'Little Friend from Front Street' (I know very > > little about this one but Barry's mother was the director > > from memory). > > > > Neverland (1977): > > > > 34. City Night --- the music reappears in 'At the Castle' > > from 'Tanz der Vampire'. It also appeared in the Kid > > Champion 'Instrumental'. > > > > 35. Dance in my Pants --- this is the same song from 'Bad > > for Good', but it actually had some different lyrics > > (Barry said this). > > > > Meat Loaf: Bat out of Hell (1977) > > > > 36. You Took the Words Right out of my Mouth (Hot Summer > > Night) --- the music for "It was a hot summer night..." is > > also part of the choruses for 'Read 'em and Weep'. > > > > 37. Two out of Three Ain't Bad --- parts of this is > > supposed to be the middle section of 'Lost Boys and Golden > > Girls'. I've never tried it. > > > > 38. For Crying out Loud --- see 13. Come With Me... Jim > > reused the verses in one of the versions of his song 'A > > Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste'. > > > > Michael Simmons: Delta House Theme (1979) > > > > 39. Delta House --- the music becomes 'Dead Ringer for > > Love', and was also used in one of the songs from the > > 'Cry-Baby' demos called 'I Don't Have Enough Middle > > Fingers for You'. > > > > Jim Steinman: Bad for Good (1981) > > > > 40. Stark Raving Love --- the music originally comes from > > 'Dream Engine' Entr'acte. The riff is later reused for > > 'Holding out for a Hero'. > > > > 41. Out of the Frying Pan (And Into the Fire) --- the riff > > is reused in one of the versions of 'A Kiss is a Terrible > > Thing to Waste' and you can hear it on both Rory's demo > > and the Everly Brothers version which was released in > > 2005. > > > > 42. Surf's up --- the intro becomes the instrumental for > > 'The Future Ain't What it Used to Be'. The music behind > > the verses becomes 'Objects in the Rear View Mirror' from > > Bat out of Hell II. > > > > 43. Left in the Dark --- much of the music comes from > > Jim's earlier song 'Souvenirs'. See 13. Come With Me... > > > > Meat Loaf: Dead Ringer (1981) > > > > 44. I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back --- the very last > > verses are similar to the climax of 'Confession of a > > Vampire' from Tanz. > > > > Bonnie Tyler: Faster Than the Speed of Night (1983) > > > > 45. Faster Than the Speed of Night --- Holly's wail at the > > end is the same one Rory does on the demo for 'I'm Gonna > > Love Her' from Dead Ringer. > > > > Streets of Fire (1984) > > > > 46. Nowhere Fast --- the riff is from 'The Storm'. The > > last section quotes 'God speed' from 'Bad for Good' which > > also turns up in 'Graveyard Shift' from Batman. > > > > 47. Tonight is What it Means to be Young --- the music and > > some of the lyrics becomes 'Dance of the Vampires' from > > 'Tanz'. > > > > The Wrestling Album (1985) > > > > 48. Hulk Hogan's Theme --- the music and the track is > > 'Ravishing' from Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire. > > > > Bonnie Tyler: Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire (1986) > > > > 49. Loving You's a Dirty Job (But Somebody's Gotta do it) > > --- the music for the song was built around a theme Jim > > wrote for 'A Small Circle of Friends'. > > > > 50. Rebel Without a Clue --- the intro is similar to 'Took > > the Words'. Fragments of the music reappeared in one of > > the versions of 'A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste'. A > > variation on some of the lyrics appeared in another > > version of 'A Kiss'. Jim was trying to reuse this song for > > some reason. > > > > The Everly Brothers: Some Hearts sessions (1987) > > > > 51. A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste --- see 41. Out of > > the Frying Pan. The title is reused for 'Whistle down the > > Wind'. Another version of this song was recorded as a demo > > by Gina Taylor where the verses are completely rewritten, > > and see 50. Rebel Without a Clue. > > > > Pandora's Box: Original Sin (1989) > > > > 52. Original Sin --- the music is reused in 'God is Dead' > > from 'Tanz'. It's a major theme in the score. > > > > 53. Safe Sex --- the music behind 'We'll never be as young > > as this...' reappears in 'What Part of my Body Hurts the > > Most?' > > > > 54. The Opening of the Box --- it's literally the second > > part of 'The Storm', same recording. > > > > The Sisters of Mercy: Vision Thing (1990) > > > > 55. More --- the chorus is reused in 'Catwoman's Song' > > from Batman. > > > > Bat out of Hell II: Back into Hell (1993) > > > > 56. I'd do Anything for Love (But I Won't do That) --- > > this was a line Jim said ten years earlier in a song for > > Bonnie Tyler called 'Getting so Excited'. > > > > 57. Objects in the Rear View Mirror --- the music becomes > > 'Confession of a Vampire' from Tanz. > > > > 58. Everything Louder than Everything Else --- this is > > built around the opening music from 'Nowhere Fast', but > > not the riff part from 'The Storm'. > > > > 59. Good Girls go to Heaven (Bad Girls go Everywhere) --- > > the new riff for this version reappears in 'Carpe > > Noctem'. > > > > 60. Back into Hell --- see above. > > > > Whistle down the Wind (1996-98) > > > > 61. Vaults of Heaven --- the title is reused from an > > unreleased Jim song. > > > > 62. Whistle down the Wind --- there are some lines from > > 'The Future' in this, which also reappear in 'Cry to > > Heaven'. > > > > 63. Tire Tracks and Broken Hearts --- the title is > > developed from a line in 'Peel Out' from Dead Ringer. > > > > 64. If Only --- see 16. If Only. > > > > 65. A Kiss is a Terrible Thing to Waste --- see 51. A > > Kiss... > > > > 66. The Soliloquy aka Unsettled Scores --- again, some > > lines from 'The Future'. > > > > 67. Nature of the Beast --- the lyrics are similar to a > > lyric Jim wrote for Bat out of Hell 2100 called 'In the > > Underbelly of the Beast'. > > > > Celine Dion: Let's Talk About Love sessions (1997) > > > > 68. Is Nothing Sacred --- the music behind the verses is > > reused in 'Angels Arise' and 'Cry to Heaven'. > > > > Batman (2000-02): > > > > 69. (Vespers) Angels Arise --- parts of this song are > > developed into 'Angels Arise' from the American production > > of 'Tanz'. > > > > 70. Graveyard Shift --- this is built around the music > > from 'Hear the Screams', second half of 'Bad for Good' > > etc. > > > > 71. In the Land of the Pig the Butcher is King --- the > > chorus was a lyric in Jim's 1971 draft of 'Dream Engine'. > > > > Garbo (2002): > > > > 72. City of Black and White --- the music is built from a > > theme from 'A Small Circle of Friends'. > > > > 73. Dark Night of the Soul --- this is a new song, but > > with fragments of the middle section of 'Mother River > > Song' and 'Nocturnally Yours'. > > > > Meat Loaf: Braver Than We Are (2016): > > > > 74. Speaking in Tongues --- a part of the music also > > appears in 'The Future', the bit at the end of the > > choruses. > > | |
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