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steven_stuart 08:35 pm UTC 05/11/21 |
In reply to: | re: Bat III - rockfenris2005 01:24 pm UTC 05/10/21 |
Ugh. Having writers who are not Jim on a BOOH album is sort of sacrilegious. Didn't Meat even try to fight against Desmond doing that? > It's my understanding that Jim couldn't say anything > negative while they were promoting the album. After that, > when Meat was putting out "Hang Cool Teddy Bear" which was > four years after, THAT'S when we started finding out that > he was really unhappy with the whole thing, and he's been > vocal about it more or less ever since. He even ended up > saying as far as he was concerned, there was no Bat 3. > There have been a few comments from producer Desmond Child > as well, who said he had been unhappy working on the album > too. > > In 2016, Jim referred to "Monster is Loose" (instead of > "Bat III: The Monster is Loose") as that "damnable shit > fest" on social media which was the only time I ever saw > him talk about it like that publicly. > > Beyond that, I don't know or I don't remember. > > It probably was all about the managers. Poor Meat, because > you can imagine the record company as soon as they get a > whiff that Meat wants to make Bat III, imagine how much > you'd want him to put something like that out, because of > how much money you could make off it. It's this massive > franchise. Meat under any circumstances couldn't just back > out of a record deal, lightly, but then you put Bat III > into the situation, and oh boy. I feel like he was stuck > and there was nothing he could do really but to try and > make the most of things and hope that they would work, but > Jim was already not going to be involved, Desmond changed > things that Meat wouldn't have done originally (he said > there'd be eight songs and three other ones by > non-writers, which I think is what he had in mind as > opposed to what we actually got), and then Patti didn't > get the big single duet. It was a mess. > > Thank God they did "Braver" together. > > > Did Jim agree not to say anything public as part of the > > agreement that ended the lawsuits which gave Jim the right > > to do a BOOH show and Meat the right to do a BOOH 3 album? > > I seem to remember that Meat was the first one of the two > > to start saying anything really negative about BOOH 3. > > Although I could be wrong and maybe Ryan The Historian > > could tell us exactly what happened as far as all of that > > goes. When Jim died, Meat said that he and Jim never sued > > each other. He said only their managers sued. > > > > > I remember based on the blog and messages here that > > > Steinman had an order not to comment negatively on Bat 3 > > > (in public) > > > > > > Does anyone have his true (candid) opinions on the album? > > > > > > Not meaning to be insensitive. But the gossip in me has > > > always felt that Jim did not do well being gagged. | |
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