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re: Bat III

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Evan 01:19 pm UTC 05/12/21
In reply to: re: Bat III - rockfenris2005 06:01 am UTC 05/10/21

I seem to remember a comment Jim made. Now Iím paraphrasing here as I donít remember the exact quote but it was something like this:

ďWhen i first heard Bat III I thought passionate, inspiring, bombastic, over the top. I missed those elements from the past Bat albums but I ďlikedĒ this album.Ē

Clearly an indirect intelligent insult. I seem to remember this remark being in response to Meat claiming at the time of the albums release that Jim had heard it and liked it.

The Bat III situation is a tricky one. I feel like the album isnít horrible as a Meat Loaf album. In fact, as strictly a Meat Loaf album one could argue itís one of his better efforts. Desmond wasnít horrible. He and Jim even worked together in the past, as we all know. It was just a hard pill to swallow to lb presented with a Bat album that featured songs by other artists and worst of all, Diane Warren.

Itís both fun and sad to imagine what could have been had Jim been involved. Would it have gotten made at all or would Braver had been Bat III? I wonder why they didnít opt to call Braver, Bat Out Of Hell IV? Perhaps they thought the brand had been slightly tarnished by Bat III? Perhaps they just wanted to leave he Bat legacy to the musical?

One last thought, why do you suppose Meat was forbidden from recoding certain new Jim songs? We can complain about a Bat album featuring songs written by other writers and rightfully so, however if Jim stopped offering up new material then no record company was going to want Meat to record an album of all essentially leftovers.

Correct me if Iím wrong but itís assumed there were other new songs Jim intended for a Bat III such as Paradise Lost and No Lips, Hands or Butts but we only really know those titles in title format alone. Iím guessing that of the songs we actually know, he following wouldíve been intended for Bat III. What part of my body, in the land of the pig, cry to heaven, and weíre still the children.

Why would Jim stop Meat from recording some of these? I seem to remember that part of the lawsuit gave Meat permission to release the new songs of Jimís. What a strange situation.

> He had made this comment while talking about "Only When I
> Feel" from Braver on social media in 2016:
> Quote:
> I LOVE "Only When I Feel" -- but Meat cut the fast heavy
> bridge on that damnable shit fest THE MONSTER IS LOOSE,
> and now heís JUST cut the slow yearning part. Itís like
> splitting Siamese twins apart with a chainsaw!! But I love
> hearing the heartbreaking part. JS
> > I remember based on the blog and messages here that
> > Steinman had an order not to comment negatively on Bat 3
> > (in public)
> >
> > Does anyone have his true (candid) opinions on the album?
> >
> > Not meaning to be insensitive. But the gossip in me has
> > always felt that Jim did not do well being gagged.

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