HOME | MAIN BOARD | TWITTER | LOGIN | REGISTER | SEARCH | FLAT MODE

not logged in

re: Bat III

Posted by:
Evan 01:19 pm UTC 05/12/21
In reply to: re: Bat III - rockfenris2005 06:01 am UTC 05/10/21

I seem to remember a comment Jim made. Now I’m paraphrasing here as I don’t remember the exact quote but it was something like this:

“When i first heard Bat III I thought passionate, inspiring, bombastic, over the top. I missed those elements from the past Bat albums but I “liked” this album.”

Clearly an indirect intelligent insult. I seem to remember this remark being in response to Meat claiming at the time of the albums release that Jim had heard it and liked it.

The Bat III situation is a tricky one. I feel like the album isn’t horrible as a Meat Loaf album. In fact, as strictly a Meat Loaf album one could argue it’s one of his better efforts. Desmond wasn’t horrible. He and Jim even worked together in the past, as we all know. It was just a hard pill to swallow to lb presented with a Bat album that featured songs by other artists and worst of all, Diane Warren.

It’s both fun and sad to imagine what could have been had Jim been involved. Would it have gotten made at all or would Braver had been Bat III? I wonder why they didn’t opt to call Braver, Bat Out Of Hell IV? Perhaps they thought the brand had been slightly tarnished by Bat III? Perhaps they just wanted to leave he Bat legacy to the musical?

One last thought, why do you suppose Meat was forbidden from recoding certain new Jim songs? We can complain about a Bat album featuring songs written by other writers and rightfully so, however if Jim stopped offering up new material then no record company was going to want Meat to record an album of all essentially leftovers.

Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s assumed there were other new songs Jim intended for a Bat III such as Paradise Lost and No Lips, Hands or Butts but we only really know those titles in title format alone. I’m guessing that of the songs we actually know, he following would’ve been intended for Bat III. What part of my body, in the land of the pig, cry to heaven, and we’re still the children.

Why would Jim stop Meat from recording some of these? I seem to remember that part of the lawsuit gave Meat permission to release the new songs of Jim’s. What a strange situation.

>
> He had made this comment while talking about "Only When I
> Feel" from Braver on social media in 2016:
>
> Quote:
>
> I LOVE "Only When I Feel" -- but Meat cut the fast heavy
> bridge on that damnable shit fest THE MONSTER IS LOOSE,
> and now he’s JUST cut the slow yearning part. It’s like
> splitting Siamese twins apart with a chainsaw!! But I love
> hearing the heartbreaking part. JS
>
>
> > I remember based on the blog and messages here that
> > Steinman had an order not to comment negatively on Bat 3
> > (in public)
> >
> > Does anyone have his true (candid) opinions on the album?
> >
> > Not meaning to be insensitive. But the gossip in me has
> > always felt that Jim did not do well being gagged.


reply |

Previous: re: Bat III - rockfenris2005 06:01 am UTC 05/10/21
Next: re: Bat III - rockfenris2005 03:38 pm UTC 05/12/21

Thread:



HOME | MAIN BOARD | LOG OFF | START A NEW THREAD | EDIT PROFILE | SEARCH | FLAT MODE