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re: I just love these lyrics.

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rockfenris2005 03:55 pm UTC 05/12/21
In reply to: re: I just love these lyrics. - Evan 01:29 pm UTC 05/12/21


From what I understand: the way Jim usually wrote was, he'd start with a title, say "Total Eclipse of the Heart". That's an amazing title. It's got a great image. But now he has to turn it into an actual song. That's usually when he starts the lyrics, where he's got to find a way to try and live up to that title, which he eventually does. And once the lyrics are in place, then comes the music. The lyric writing can be really tricky and laborious, just downright torture sometimes, but the music tends to come easier. Sometimes he'll recycle it from other things he's written. The lyrics for "Stark Raving Love" are suddenly put to that bit of the Entr'acte from "Dream Engine", and then he's able to complete it from there. Then comes the arrangement. It probably all starts with just piano and vocal, and it was probably recorded that way too. First the piano, the drums as well maybe, and then everything slowly gets layered on top of that. Todd will come in with the backing vocals and just come up with the most exquisite arrangements, which people like Rory, Eric and Holly for example would sing. You hear a lot of their work throughout those albums, from "Bat" right up to "Welcome to the Neighbourhood".

"Angels Arise" you probably know was a lyric in "Batman", but it was just that first part. When the song got put into "Dance of the Vampires", then he came up with the other bits like "Shivers down my spine" and "There are things that must be magic". In that case, he would have had the music and lyrics complete for those bits, from "Batman", and then wrote lyrics for the new bits, before putting them to music.

With Andrew Lloyd Webber, for example, he worked in reverse. Andrew gives the lyricists his music and describes the ideas that he wants, since he's not a lyricist himself, and they have to come up with it.

A similar thing happened with Tim Rice. He was so used to writing lyrics to other people's music, suddenly Elton wanted lyrics first for "The Lion King" which he found really difficult. Because the music was pre-existing, it meant that he had to work in those constraints, so he wouldn't waffle on and just get to the point.


> These lyrics are amazing. I just feel that theyíre out of
> this world. It seriously makes me so envious of Jimís
> writing talent. I wish I could write lyrics like this. I
> wonder if it was difficult for him to write these or if it
> just came to him naturally? It never ceases to send
> shivers down my spine listening to this. Imagine going to
> a broadway show with no prior knowledge of Jim and hearing
> this. Itís utter beauty!
>
> > Angels arise
> > As night must fall and
> > Radiant eyes
> > Stare down on us all
> >
> > If the powers that be
> > Be beyond our call
> > Then angels arise
> > As the night must surely fall
> >
> > And for every pit of darkness
> > There's a light so pure divine
> > And I ask you to protect me
> > From those gasps and shudders
> > And those shivers down my spine
> >
> > Angels arise
> > As night must fall and
> > All-knowing eyes
> > Stare down on us all
> >
> > If the powers that be
> > Be beyond our call
> > Then angels arise
> > As the night must surely fall
> >
> > There are things that must be magic
> > There's no explaining why or how
> > And there's every sign that once upon a time
> > Is starting here and now
> > There's every sign that once upon a time
> > Is starting right here and now


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