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pidunk 11:46 pm UTC 04/18/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Been Having So Much Fun, Thanks! - daveake 08:32 pm UTC 04/18/07 |
> > misperceptions perpetuated by poor information. There are alot of misperceptions that take place sometimes. I used to joke with myself (during the time when the TV show "Touched By An Angel" was airing) that finding things out to me often meant I was "touched by an error." Sometimes it is my own error. So I really do go out of my way to be sure. I found a few things in some afternoon research and remembrance today, and would like to share them with you. Sometimes the error I make, isn't the salient error, even when an error is afoot. I shamelessly make a retraction at the bottom of this page, but first, I show what is available to make a point that I do not retract. And I hope you will enjoy. AT the media player count of 056-059 on Ladybirds3.rm, Jim is demonstrating a melody curve in "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" in the beginning works with Bonnie which were recorded on video. Then at a later player count, 1:46-1:47 A second demonstration to Bonnie. Here is the link to that on this site: http://jimsteinman.com/ladybirds3.rm In Ladybirds4.rm, there is visually the pair of Jim performing with Bonnie, with the sound of the finished recording. Obviously dubbed in on the soundtrack, this could be either a lipsynched recording or an over-dubbed set above the raw singing. Either way, Jim is shown singing "Turn Around" and until I saw someone on this board suggest it was not Jim, I always knew it was Jim who was singing that set of the repeated line on that song. http://jimsteinman.com/ladybirds4.rm In the original view, Jim mentions that some of the vocal work would be filled in by background singers, but interestingly enough, when it came for the final recording, it was actually Bonnie who sang the difficult passage being discussed. If background vocals would be used, they are not so close to the lead vocal as to be confused with the lead vocal. Maybe in a different way, have another listen, to "Total Eclipse Of The Heart". This is different than what was suggested by reference in a post I found on a search I made on the Rockman Record and I cut and paste the url here: Link And the text: re: Over Rory Posted by: rockfenris2005 07:33 am MST 03/14/07 In reply to: re: Over Rory - Vin 07:31 am MST 03/14/07 > Question: Am I the only one around here that doesn't > think very highly of Rory Dodd as a lead vocalist? > > It seems that most folks here heap lavish praise on Rory's > lead vocal eforts on Steinsongs, but he largely leaves me > cold with what I consider to be a thin, emasculated > voice. > (When I hear Rory sings "Surf's Up," I feel like he is > singing to a dude.) > > I think he is a perfect BG guy, born and bred. Does > anyone concur, or am I hopelessly alone in my opinion? > I never liked his stuff on "Bad For Good", totally devoid of emotion and subtlety. "Turn around..." on "Total Eclipse" and the "Kiss" demo are phenomenal. -------------------------end of that post------------------- Another post in the same thread at http://jimsteinman.com/messageboard/d.php?id=4243 has this text: re: fav steinsongs Posted by: rockfenris2005 07:29 am MST 03/14/07 In reply to: re: fav steinsongs - Scarecrow's_Brain 07:04 am MST 03/14/07 > Jim's/Rory's sounds perfect to me! > > Really, I'm puzzled. What could improve on that > recording? > > sb I love "Bad For Good", I really do, but it has that feeling of a large-scale demo, like the most expensive demo ever to be recorded. I also don't think Meat was cut out to sing it, nor do I think it's a Meat song. I think it belongs in "Neverland", it is very cinematic and theatrical or "Broadway". ------------------end of that post-------------------------- The video for the song "Rock And Roll Dreams Come Through" which shows a very hot looking Jim Steinman singing either as a synch to the recording or as an overdub to the recording (because what is the sense of doing a promo video without the advantages of full production on the song?), is also happily resident on this site, at this Link ------------------------------------------------------------- But wait, there's more. A real wonderful small piece of history from 1969, in "The Dream Engine", where Jim sings a song called "Inspirational Hymn (The God Game)". It is Jim singing the song by himself without any backup singers, and it has high notes as well as mid-range notes. It is the diamond in the rough that Jim's voice has evolved to become. Download it and have a listen. http://rapidshare.com/files/26724182/CD2_02_Inspirational_Hymn__the_God_Game_.mp3.html ----------------------------And, one little bittle retraction: I suppose that nobody really suggested that "Left In The Dark" was sung by Rory! I glanced at a post by Scarecrow's_Brain made on March 12th, at http://jimsteinman.com/messageboard/d.php?id=4099 in which he stated, and I quote, "Hyperbole. Jim did an OK job, but I can see why he works with other singers. And "Left In The Dark" should've been left to Rory." In which he complained that the vocal of the song was not performed by Rory Dodd. The wording confused me into thinking that there had been two versions and the first was believed to have been sung by the mythically proportioned Rory Dodd, saying Rory sang the song on the album and it should have been left there without any further versions. So, I suppose I just wasn't wearing my reading glasses. Oops. However, as it turned out, this topic was due for the writing anyway. Insert twangy snippity remark here. :-) | |
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