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re: ... And the sheer eclecticism of Beatles For Sale / Rubber Soul / Revolver?? n/m

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pidunk 04:48 am UTC 05/02/07
In reply to: ... And the sheer eclecticism of Beatles For Sale / Rubber Soul / Revolver?? n/m - Wilbury 12:42 pm UTC 05/01/07



I did a little bit of searching for where Jim has made reference to The Beatles in writings on jimsteinman.com, and found this,
At http://www.jimsteinman.com/somethingdark.htm


"On the tightrope of being thrilling and silly" is how he describes his work, and Mr. Lloyd Webber's, and Miss Knop's, and most of his favorite rock and opera. He sees "Whistle" as a chance to bring theater's lyrics into the rock era.

"Rock 'n' roll really transformed lyrics starting in the mid-1960s - well, starting with Dylan and then going on through the Beatles, et cetera," Mr. Steinman says. "And that really changed the way lyrics were conceived and composed: much more compressed, imagistic, heightened language. And that never gets talked about, and that hasn't been used in theater. Theater tends to have very literal lyrics."

Mr. Steinman actually started out in the 1970s trying to create musicals at the New York Shakespeare Festival for the legendary producer Joseph Papp, who threw an ashtray at him when Mr. Steinman said he was leaving the theater to make records.

When Papp asked him why he was giving up on theater, Mr. Steinman recalls saying, "I look out at the audience every night, and all I see is old people and their parents."


What I hear on the some-questioning radio broadcasts when Dion plays the Beatles, I'm given to believe that Jim has a great understanding and appreciation for the music and lyrics. "Dion" and "Jim", well, those who know I mean to say that I experience Dion as Jim, will forgive me as I sway to the popular belief structure.

My feeling about the timing of the Beatles, is the most important element into the level of one's appreciations for them. Those who were around and cognizant enough to hear them as they came onto the scene in 1963 had nothing else like it to which to compare. As time went on, The Beatles became the legacy legend, while Rock, even the Rock that they seemd to have created the demand for in the United States, moved on without their everpresence. It is easy to say that compared to all the others in existence now, that The Beatles don't seem like a big whoopie, when it was the fact that when they came around, they were the only big whoopie around. Elvis had swung his hips as much as they could swing by then. It was Perry Como who got the most airplay.





> :o) n/m
>
> > Of course he digs the Beatles, anyone with half a brain
> > does :o).
> >
> > And he references the White Album as possessing the
> > cohesive "mystery" that he wanted Bat to have when making
> > it. Once again tho, not all that revelationary, because
> > EVERYONE knows that The White Album is the real shit...
> >
> > "lacks most of the things Jim seems to get off on". ??
> > You've heard the White Album, Abbey Road, A Day In The
> > Life, Hey Jude then? (And George's All Things Must Pass?)
> >
> >
> > > DOES Jim like the Beatles????
> > >
> > > I would have guessed not; IMO, they lack most of the
> > > things that Jim seems to get off on.
> > >
> > >
> > > > It's a definite "nay" from me.
> > > >
> > > > They had a good producer, but I don't much like the
> > > > Beatles. I think it's become much worse since my dad's
> > > > been playing their music in his car and his car has
> > > > terrible sonics, so all I can hear is whining and Ringo's
> > > > horrible drumming.
> > > >
> > > > If it weren't for the Beatles:
> > > > * Oasis & other rip-off bands wouldn't plague us.
> > > > * Boybands wouldn't dominate the charts
> > > >
> > > > Both of these are good things.
> > > >
> > > > Jim likes the Beatles. But then, he likes boy-bands.


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