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pidunk 12:12 am UTC 05/26/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Return to previous comment and reply - Klasien 08:17 pm UTC 05/25/07 |
> If you see a bloke masturbating to porn often enough you > will learn to see that porn leads to masturbation? Or as you said that masturbation leads to porn, you are correct, that it is all about conditioning. One knows what one is shown. When one can see the larger view in the universe at large (usually comes from education or a widely diverse social life or both) one sees the differences between what they are shown to know, which is what you seem to be describing, and what there is to know, which is all those things that their earliest experiences begin and their education and social life expand. If there were only a few things to know, libraries would be small, universities would be small, and so on. One example of this is that you know things being geographically where you are, that I don't know, being geographically where I am. That's about the sum of it: location, location, location, LOL. > Emotions lead you to black and white thoughts like that > everything in that direction will turn him on and turn him > away from you? In a man-woman relationship the only point of reference I could use is my own experiences, and there are different kinds of emotions, and different kinds of black and white. If one is in a really good relationship where there is room for rational thought which sort out the emotions, then that black and white syndrome is mitigated. But, if the couple operate together on an emotional reactionary based level, then that is more likely to be the case. The more involvement in a relationship there is with porn, the less involvement in a relationship is there between the partners, on the emotional and intimate level....sexually they may see themselves as closer, because they may have a thrill they might attribute to porn, but if they have someone deliberately come between them, they ultimately have what they seek, someone that comes between them. The topic of porn goes a little bit further, though, because it also invokes the spiritual connection between the pair. The strangers on the page or the strangers on the films have their own energies, which get placed into the receiver, the viewer. Knowing or not, intending or not, someone else enters the relationship. > > > > > > > > > > > totally true. > > > > > > for most girls a guy masturbating won't be > > > as big an issue as the guy masturbating to the image of > > > another woman, whether real or not. > > > > That is very true. Girls are not upset usually, about a > > guy working off his tension that way, but there is an > > element of intrusion when the stimulus is another woman, > > in the flesh or on the page. > > > > > > > So for most women who have been in such situations, there > > > will be but a fine line between porn and masturbation > > > since the one obviously leads to the other. > > > > > > I've never seen one leading to the other, as masturbation > > is a natural incidence of self-exploration and porn is an > > artificial construct brought about by peer pressure. > > > > > > > > > > K. > > > > > > > > | |
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