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samurai7 01:07 am UTC 05/27/07 |
| In reply to: | re: The Anatomy Of Research, Or, Why Not Just Doodle? - pidunk 09:39 pm UTC 05/26/07 |
| Okay, seeing as you asked so eloquently:- 1. I was correct - what you've stated is shit. From a purely technical point of view, you understand! 2. I am a professional singer. I perform a Meat Loaf tribute, so you could arguably say that my range is the same, or very similar to that of he. Meat Loaf has only recently had ANY formal voice training, and that was out of necessity. Some people are born with talent, others have to work hard to perfect what they have. Are you a professional singer? If not, then don't make assumptions about how I might have become professional, and how much training it took me to become so. I have been doing this for approaching ten years. I am a tenor, with a range of about four and a half octaves (The label "five-octave vocal range" is a slight misnomer) and am also quite an accomplished (although admittedly self-taught) pianist and guitarist, so also have the technical knowledge to back up such claims. Before you challenge my lack of formal training, let me first point out that some of our greatest ever composers and performers were never 'formally' trained, for example Sir Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan. It is quite acceptable that virtuosity can be achieved through experience. Also, the phrases such as 'tenor', 'baritone' etc do not specifically play only a part in which register you can sing. I know of many fine Baritones, and even Bass singers that have a highly impressive falsetto. Conversely, there are many tenors that can sing the parts written for a baritone, and vice-versa. These terms describe the timbre, or 'fach' of the voice, not simply the 'range' of the singer. Take for instance the well-known vocalist Michael Bolton; based on your obviously vast knowledge of such subjects, I ask you this: How would you categorise his voice? Tenor? Baritone? Answer me honestly. He can hit notes that Meat Loaf (who coincidentally started off as a tenor, but now, due to maturity and age, is more of a baritone) could only dream of hitting, but is technically a BARITONE. I'd say a Dramatic, or perhaps even a Baryton-Martin. Also, How much training have YOU had to make your judgements? Are you musically gifted? Do you play and/or sing? Are you qualified to disagree with me? Before you answer, ask yourself that question: ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO DISAGREE WITH ME? 3. This is the last time I'll respond to any of your posts. Your stubborness is only topped by your pedantry and pretentiousness. I find your attitude patronising, and your use of language incredibly self-important. Your flowery diatribes are wasted here. 4. See points 1, 2 and 3. and finally: 5. Jim Steinman DID NOT SING 'TOTAL ECLIPSE', or 'SURF'S UP', or indeed 'LOST BOYS & GOLDEN GIRLS' or even 'ROCK & ROLL DREAMS'. Get over yourself. Why would so many of us disagree with you if this were not the case? Do you think we do it out of spite? Or out of jealousy that you may posess higher knowledge? NO!!!! We do it because you are WRONG. Please, kindly leave the subject alone. You are both outclassed, and outgunned. You really think now that I should 'know better'? Nite nite. > > > I am a professional singer. You are talking complete and > > utter shit. Stop it. > > > > Usually debates include areas of disagreement that address > certain specific points. That is a conversation. If you > just want to piss on my head, the way you are handling > yourself is just about right for that. I've been writing > about singing training for eons in proportion to these > topics, and you have had as many opportunities to converse > on the topic. I am really not, all other's malicious > "misunderstandings" aside, not here for a monologue, not > here to be the declarer of my position of a particular > technical topic, but not being given any data from others > as to the company of peers. If you are a professional > singer, then I could assume you are trained in singing and > have a wide range, capable of handling a diversity of > tunes. If you don't then you are a professional singer by > virtue of being paid, not by virtue of virtuosity. Why > don't you just get humanly serious and state your case? > How wide is your range? How many sub-ranges to you carry? > Have you ever sung acapella? What is your vocal > classification? What is the most difficult song you have > ever successfully sang, in and out of performance? How > long was your training? How many coaches did you have? > When did you begin to sing? Where have you sung > professionally? > > You don't have a right to call my statement what you call > it, because you should know better. > > > > > | |
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