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re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION

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Markus 10:31 am UTC 05/29/07
In reply to: re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION - RadioMaster 09:56 am UTC 05/29/07

A good voice and being off key are two completely different things. A good voice can be off key and a bad voice can be off key. The voice itself is not the point here.

Markus.

> in fact, I've been to a few (tempting to say many, but I
> wont) concerts, of several performers, who had been off
> key much more than Meat.
> You just cant compair his voice with 60 with his voice 30
> years ago. It is obviously that it sounds different.
>
> I guess we have different points of view about a 'good
> voice'. I was just judging from the power and engery in
> many notes. Some times it was literally breathtaking.
>
> > Well I find that quite alarming really.
> >
> > If in your estimation he was 80% of his MSO performance, I
> > would find that pretty damn un-lstenable. He's completely
> > all over the shop and unbarably bad with the MSO. I
> > thought he had got much better since then -- is that
> > actually what you mean??
> >
> > And I have to agree wth Markus, and refute the claim that
> > being out of key is a problem plaging most touring acts,
> > and one not worth mentioning. It's the fundamental thing
> > separating a singer from a drunken karoake superstar.
> > Being vaguely in the right key is not a big ask of a
> > professional vocalist, in fact it's probably the FIRST
> > ask. But Meat gets special dispensation it seems. :-/
> >
> > Having bombarded you with that tirade, tho, I'm glad you
> > liked it! :o) I saw him right after the MSO performances
> > (ie the same setlist minus the orchestra) and it was a
> > great show. The fact that his voice was so poor grated me
> > big time in places, and it didn't matter in others. And in
> > others his voice as up to it. So all in all it was alright
> > on the night, in the smoke and lights and INCREDIBLY poor
> > acoustic mix. I just find it such a huge shame that such a
> > great vocalist can't perform in a concert setting anymore,
> > because if he could it would be one of the greatest
> > spectacles ever (and the DVDs and CDs relesed from live
> > shows wouldn't be such double edged swords).
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ok guys,
> > > I read many, many reviews of Meats shows the last few
> > > months, and the disturbing thing was that some of them
> > > praised it as the best tour ever and some of them said
> > > it's not worth mentioning.
> > > So I really didnt know what to expect.
> > > Were the good reviews just some blended fans who'd still
> > > say he's singing great when he's lying on the graveyard?
> > > Or were the bad reviews just some disappointed
> > > steinmaniacs still moaning about Bat3?
> > >
> > > As I couldnt really answer that question I decided to
> > > watch the show first and build my opinion afterwards.
> > >
> > > And here it is - my opinion: As objective as can be. I'll
> > > try to keep it to the hard facts:
> > >
> > > - Meat Loaf's isnt what it used to be 30, 20 or 10 years
> > > ago
> > > - On the other hand, it is much better than it was the
> > > last few years (I can only judge from bootlegs and other
> > > live recordings)
> > > - If you compare it to his voice on the MSO DVD (which
> > > comes closest to a Meat Loaf show, if you havent seen a
> > > real show before), his voice is 80% of that.
> > > - There were a few notes he struggeled with, epsecially
> > > with the Bat3 songs. Baab comes to mind.
> > > - Other notes were really breathtaking: Held out as long
> > > as on the MSO DVD, some even longer, and still as
> > > powerful.
> > > - He was off key a few times, but not really worth
> > > mentioning, as thats the matter with the live shows of
> > > most of the artists touring.
> > > - All in all it was really a great show. I can honestly
> > > say that this (the friday one, the whole atmosphere was
> > > better) was the BEST live show I have ever been to.
> > >
> > > For those of you who are still moaning and living in the
> > > past: Forget everything you know about Meat and/or Jim, go
> > > to the show and enjoy it as what it is: A great rock show
> > > that doesnt need to be compared to earlier shows. Go to
> > > the show, you wont regret it.
> > >
> > > If anyone thinks they can prove me wrong, please do!


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