| re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION | |
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Markus 10:31 am UTC 05/29/07 |
| In reply to: | re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION - RadioMaster 09:56 am UTC 05/29/07 |
| A good voice and being off key are two completely different things. A good voice can be off key and a bad voice can be off key. The voice itself is not the point here. Markus. > in fact, I've been to a few (tempting to say many, but I > wont) concerts, of several performers, who had been off > key much more than Meat. > You just cant compair his voice with 60 with his voice 30 > years ago. It is obviously that it sounds different. > > I guess we have different points of view about a 'good > voice'. I was just judging from the power and engery in > many notes. Some times it was literally breathtaking. > > > Well I find that quite alarming really. > > > > If in your estimation he was 80% of his MSO performance, I > > would find that pretty damn un-lstenable. He's completely > > all over the shop and unbarably bad with the MSO. I > > thought he had got much better since then -- is that > > actually what you mean?? > > > > And I have to agree wth Markus, and refute the claim that > > being out of key is a problem plaging most touring acts, > > and one not worth mentioning. It's the fundamental thing > > separating a singer from a drunken karoake superstar. > > Being vaguely in the right key is not a big ask of a > > professional vocalist, in fact it's probably the FIRST > > ask. But Meat gets special dispensation it seems. :-/ > > > > Having bombarded you with that tirade, tho, I'm glad you > > liked it! :o) I saw him right after the MSO performances > > (ie the same setlist minus the orchestra) and it was a > > great show. The fact that his voice was so poor grated me > > big time in places, and it didn't matter in others. And in > > others his voice as up to it. So all in all it was alright > > on the night, in the smoke and lights and INCREDIBLY poor > > acoustic mix. I just find it such a huge shame that such a > > great vocalist can't perform in a concert setting anymore, > > because if he could it would be one of the greatest > > spectacles ever (and the DVDs and CDs relesed from live > > shows wouldn't be such double edged swords). > > > > > > > > > Ok guys, > > > I read many, many reviews of Meats shows the last few > > > months, and the disturbing thing was that some of them > > > praised it as the best tour ever and some of them said > > > it's not worth mentioning. > > > So I really didnt know what to expect. > > > Were the good reviews just some blended fans who'd still > > > say he's singing great when he's lying on the graveyard? > > > Or were the bad reviews just some disappointed > > > steinmaniacs still moaning about Bat3? > > > > > > As I couldnt really answer that question I decided to > > > watch the show first and build my opinion afterwards. > > > > > > And here it is - my opinion: As objective as can be. I'll > > > try to keep it to the hard facts: > > > > > > - Meat Loaf's isnt what it used to be 30, 20 or 10 years > > > ago > > > - On the other hand, it is much better than it was the > > > last few years (I can only judge from bootlegs and other > > > live recordings) > > > - If you compare it to his voice on the MSO DVD (which > > > comes closest to a Meat Loaf show, if you havent seen a > > > real show before), his voice is 80% of that. > > > - There were a few notes he struggeled with, epsecially > > > with the Bat3 songs. Baab comes to mind. > > > - Other notes were really breathtaking: Held out as long > > > as on the MSO DVD, some even longer, and still as > > > powerful. > > > - He was off key a few times, but not really worth > > > mentioning, as thats the matter with the live shows of > > > most of the artists touring. > > > - All in all it was really a great show. I can honestly > > > say that this (the friday one, the whole atmosphere was > > > better) was the BEST live show I have ever been to. > > > > > > For those of you who are still moaning and living in the > > > past: Forget everything you know about Meat and/or Jim, go > > > to the show and enjoy it as what it is: A great rock show > > > that doesnt need to be compared to earlier shows. Go to > > > the show, you wont regret it. > > > > > > If anyone thinks they can prove me wrong, please do! | |
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