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| re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION | |
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Pudding 10:31 am UTC 05/29/07 |
| In reply to: | re: ML Wembley 07 - MY OPINION - RadioMaster 09:56 am UTC 05/29/07 |
| I don't think anyone in their right mind could logically argue that Meat 30 years ago and Meat now is expected to have the same voice. I think the point some people are trying make is that Meats voice NOW, irrespective of what it was 30 years ago, isn't that great live. That doen't mean it still wasn't a great show with the band, the lights, the pyrotechnics and gizmo's happening, plus the people you are with, alcohol etc etc etc. The concert has to be taken as a whole. If I went to a Meat Loaf show purely based on his voice, then I wouldn't go, end of story. Saying that, if I knew his voice was totally knackered, despite what else might be happening, then I still probably wouldn't go. Pud > in fact, I've been to a few (tempting to say many, but I > wont) concerts, of several performers, who had been off > key much more than Meat. > You just cant compair his voice with 60 with his voice 30 > years ago. It is obviously that it sounds different. > > I guess we have different points of view about a 'good > voice'. I was just judging from the power and engery in > many notes. Some times it was literally breathtaking. > > > Well I find that quite alarming really. > > > > If in your estimation he was 80% of his MSO performance, I > > would find that pretty damn un-lstenable. He's completely > > all over the shop and unbarably bad with the MSO. I > > thought he had got much better since then -- is that > > actually what you mean?? > > > > And I have to agree wth Markus, and refute the claim that > > being out of key is a problem plaging most touring acts, > > and one not worth mentioning. It's the fundamental thing > > separating a singer from a drunken karoake superstar. > > Being vaguely in the right key is not a big ask of a > > professional vocalist, in fact it's probably the FIRST > > ask. But Meat gets special dispensation it seems. :-/ > > > > Having bombarded you with that tirade, tho, I'm glad you > > liked it! :o) I saw him right after the MSO performances > > (ie the same setlist minus the orchestra) and it was a > > great show. The fact that his voice was so poor grated me > > big time in places, and it didn't matter in others. And in > > others his voice as up to it. So all in all it was alright > > on the night, in the smoke and lights and INCREDIBLY poor > > acoustic mix. I just find it such a huge shame that such a > > great vocalist can't perform in a concert setting anymore, > > because if he could it would be one of the greatest > > spectacles ever (and the DVDs and CDs relesed from live > > shows wouldn't be such double edged swords). > > > > > > > > > Ok guys, > > > I read many, many reviews of Meats shows the last few > > > months, and the disturbing thing was that some of them > > > praised it as the best tour ever and some of them said > > > it's not worth mentioning. > > > So I really didnt know what to expect. > > > Were the good reviews just some blended fans who'd still > > > say he's singing great when he's lying on the graveyard? > > > Or were the bad reviews just some disappointed > > > steinmaniacs still moaning about Bat3? > > > > > > As I couldnt really answer that question I decided to > > > watch the show first and build my opinion afterwards. > > > > > > And here it is - my opinion: As objective as can be. I'll > > > try to keep it to the hard facts: > > > > > > - Meat Loaf's isnt what it used to be 30, 20 or 10 years > > > ago > > > - On the other hand, it is much better than it was the > > > last few years (I can only judge from bootlegs and other > > > live recordings) > > > - If you compare it to his voice on the MSO DVD (which > > > comes closest to a Meat Loaf show, if you havent seen a > > > real show before), his voice is 80% of that. > > > - There were a few notes he struggeled with, epsecially > > > with the Bat3 songs. Baab comes to mind. > > > - Other notes were really breathtaking: Held out as long > > > as on the MSO DVD, some even longer, and still as > > > powerful. > > > - He was off key a few times, but not really worth > > > mentioning, as thats the matter with the live shows of > > > most of the artists touring. > > > - All in all it was really a great show. I can honestly > > > say that this (the friday one, the whole atmosphere was > > > better) was the BEST live show I have ever been to. > > > > > > For those of you who are still moaning and living in the > > > past: Forget everything you know about Meat and/or Jim, go > > > to the show and enjoy it as what it is: A great rock show > > > that doesnt need to be compared to earlier shows. Go to > > > the show, you wont regret it. > > > > > > If anyone thinks they can prove me wrong, please do! | |
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