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LordRahl 09:57 pm UTC 06/06/07 |
| In reply to: | re: Original Sin and Captian Hooky Poo - pidunk 07:27 pm UTC 06/06/07 |
| Firstly, thanks for responding in paragraph format, helps my eyes, hahaha. Secondly that is some very interesting information about the musical being changed. I think that my vision probably fits more with the actual story of Peter Pan and Neverland than Jims rendition based on what you have told me. I think the song would def fit in just about anywhere that involves a villian though. It just has that steamy, Im about to do something bad so get ready for it feeling. Like a set up or an introduction to someone evil or their plans. Be good, A.G. > > > > Like I said in an earlier post, when I listen to Jim songs > > I picture my own personnal music videos to go along with > > them. > > > > Recently I was listening to Original Sin and I pictured > > Captain Hook on a ship singing the song similar to Von > > Krolock in the graveyard. The natives being restless > > tonight talking about the Lost Boys causing trouble. I > > never got an equal share about him being forced to be > > cruel. Itll never be enough to make the nightmares go > > away, perhaps referencing the crock. The original sin > > perhaps being something evil he plans on doing. And of > > course the neverland reference being him thinking aloud of > > what he thinks of Peter Pan. > > I think that you really have a handle on the kinds of > adaptations that Jim's music is capable of. Taking Von > Krolock's role and adapting it to the context of Captain > Hook is an appropos one, because the villians are the > things. However, one point is that in this, if we are > thinking of Peter Pan as Barrie's work, or Neverland as > Jim's work, there is much a different kind of villian. > > In 1983 Jim received the challenge and the impetus to > modify his existing Neverland script (performed in 1977 in > Washington, D.C.) and adapt it closely to Peter Pan. It > was an interesting sort of project, and became that which > has become discussed as Neverland since. However, the > transcript for the play/musical on the site > jimsteinman.com is the original 1977 Neverland, which has > no such adaptation. So, one could think of the Peter Pan > version as novelty, and not authority when thinking of > Jim's Neverland. Not to say he may not still play with the > idea in his head. He did after all, say that a performance > to benefit the children's hospital would take place, in > deference to the Peter Pan side of this story. > > In the original Neverland, which is the one that I think > of having read the transcript and listened to the > performance, there are characters with similar names but > not similar characterizations. There is indeed a Wendy. > Wendy, in The Dream Engine of 1969 which preceded it, was > called "Girl". Wendy and Girl are almost identical in > character between the two plays. However she is much more > developed in Neverland. Bear in mind that I do not have > three hours of The Dream Engine, but I have listened to > the performance which is not that long and I have read the > transcript of that as well. > > In the original Neverland, there is a character called > "Hook". In this, the character is much like a combination > of the Police Official and Psychiatrist plus a few other > features, as had been in The Dream Engine, where these two > are also the same character disguised as the other. This > character was altered in some significant degree between > the shows, but there is no ship and he is not a Captain, > not that I recall. And there is "Tink" which is not the > same as Tinkerbell. What is more important is that there > is no Peter. In The Dream Engine and in Neverland, there > is Baal. > > > > > > Most likely this isnt what the song is really about, but I > > could care less what it is really about, I care what I > > want it to be about. > > Original Sin is a perfect song for the villainous > character across all the themes. The reason is because Jim > wrote concerning villainous behaviors he observed in > others. Whether be a vampire or a city official/parent, > there is the same thread of usurpation and control that > pervades their intentions. "It's not enough..........." > > > > > Also, supposing Jim still reads the board I would just > > like to suggest picking up the new WWE Ladder Match DVD > > set. I dont know if you are a fan of ladder matches, but > > it has NINE FULL HOURS OF GOODNESS! (21 matches total) > > Sounds like fun. I used to watch WWF in the seventies. > > > > | |
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