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Vin 08:39 pm UTC 06/27/07 |
| In reply to: | re: So Jim Steinman walks into a bar...... - pidunk 07:53 pm UTC 06/27/07 |
| Wait, why is my analogy absurd again? And who's "Benoit?" > > > > > - I wouldn't stop listening to his music - I would just > > consider it a very sad end. > > > > - Radio stations wouldn't stop playing his songs, > > because, e.g. they never announce, "Here's No Matter What > > by Boyzone, written of course, by Jim Steinman." If he > > were the performer of the songs, e.g. Gary Glitter, then > > it might be a different story (although R Kelly would > > disprove this). > > > > - The thought of JS wouldn't disgust me, I would feel it > > were a sad end. Possibly no more a sad ending though than > > I consider Bat 3... > > > > - It would depend on the circumstances as to whether the > > "two Jims" would be considered separately. Consider > > Mohammed Ali - he is considered the greatest, depsite > > taking beatings later in his career and ending up as his > > is now. People remember him how he was. > > > > - I bet Jim pissed himself when he read your post too... > > > Well, I did, or at least spilled, as rockfenris2005 > might say, some kind of liquid or spat some kind of food > up, because this is an absurd kind of analogy using an > absurd example. Why didn't you just use the examples that > exist? There are plentiful of them. And it is absurd too > that you would contemplate the kind of acts alledgedly > committed by Benoit as anything parallel too, to a > "common" (how tragic society is) massacre. Domestic > violence is highly prevalant amongst those who are > attracted to aspects of violence and macho in a > profession, not saying anything about a profession but a > man who mashes someone's head is not on the same plane as > someone who does not. I've been a wrestling fan, and I did > not see anything dangerous in the wrestlers per se, but I > did see alot of dangerous aspects in some of the audience > I found at a match, where I thought I might have found > myself on the wrong side of a stranger's elbow or right > fist, merely by virtue of his/her own fan ranting at the > ring's activities. I both took a tranquilizer and left the > match. > > I've also seen firsthand, with a boyfriend in the common > vernacular (the one who I feel is choreographed in the > dance movements/casting of Bad For Good and Rock and Roll > Dreams Come Through videos) how a rage of an argument that > gets out of hand renders a woman helpless. The difference > on December 31, 1981, and apparently Benoit's rage > expressed on his wife just at this event, was that Benoit > did not let go, but I was myself strangled, and lost my > airflow momentarily at that time. And I have never > forgotten what it feels like to be strangled. I have never > forgotten the impossibility I found myself in, and there > was no word or action of mine that caused the release....I > was unable to speak, and I was pinned to the floor. > Suddenly, the guy just opened his eyes really wide, > released his hands, realizing what he was doing, and > stopped. I consider that a miracle. I got away from that > intense situation days later, but at that time I had > bruises up and down my arm and on my neck. > > It does not take "roids" to make a man who is predisposed > to having out of control rage, to express his rage > uncontrollably. When a man who is primitively angry to > begin with, gets out of control, it is God and Heaven who > can stop him, and nothing to blame it on but that. What > does this do to the memory of Benoit by his fans? That > depends on whether the fans feel anything about it at all. > > > > > > > > > > and guns down 47 people with an Uzi. He pushes a little > > > old lady down a flight of stairs and steals candy from a > > > baby before throwing himself in front of a bus, taking his > > > own life. Hypothetically, of course. > > > > > > Does this ultimate act of villainy (or insanity? Its all > > > the drugs, people!) negate Jim's body of work? Do you > > > still love his music? Can you still stomach his music? > > > Should radio stations still play the hits? Does the very > > > thought of Jim Steinman now disgust you? > > > > > > Are the songs now a celebration of the Jim That Was, > > > standing separate from the Jim That Was at the Last? Or > > > can the two aspects never be considered separately? > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > | |
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