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re: NJC: Dumbledore being gay

Posted by:
Tremorlor 10:57 am UTC 10/29/07
In reply to: re: NJC: Dumbledore being gay - John_Galt 03:18 am UTC 10/29/07

> > There's precious little about tolerance in there.
>
> Are we talking about the Christian Bible?

The entity worshipped there is rather wrathful whenever something happens that he doesn't like. And the followers aren't exactly the most peaceful either. Nice how a land was promised to them and first thing they do is to root out the people who lived there for hundreds of years eg. OK, the disciples were more peaceful, but the further you get from them the more aggressive the message of peace and salvation gets.

> Luke 9:52-56: "...they did not receive him...And when his
> disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt
> thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and
> consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and
> rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit
> ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's
> lives, but to save them. And they went to another
> village."

How many deaths could have been prevented if the later followers would have adhered to that?

> No, it's not "okay" to murder homosexuals. I don't
> understand how you could have read Collosians or Romans or
> the New Testament, at all. You keep quoting material from
> the Old Testament as if the second half of the book did
> not happen, at all. It's completely unfair to say that
> Christians must follow the letter of the Old Testament and
> the Mesianic law when the New Testament is largely about
> the creation of a New Covenant repudiating the very Old
> Testament laws you keep pointing to.

If the NT should replace the OT rules, why are the various churches still proclaiming the laws stated in the OT?

> > How come that so many Romans were needed to arrest a
> > pacifist then?
>
> I always took Jesus' arrest and death as a story that
> encourages tolerance.

IIRC a cohort was send to arrest, a Roman cohort is always 600 legionaries. Slightly over the top for a small group of pacifists, isn't it?


> I think that's Old Testament stuff or a really novel
> translation. The Christian Bible is in large part about
> the formation of a New Covenant because God believed as
> you do that the Mesianic law you keep citing had been
> corrupted.

The Christian bible is OT and NT shoved together with the NT being about the last quarter. So a large part of the bible still is the old laws that include smiting of infidels and other people who do not do as the jewish god wishes. The good thing about the OT compared to the NT is that it doesn't demand to spread the faith to unsuspecting victims.


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