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Scaramouche 01:46 pm UTC 04/22/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Bat Musical musings.... - rockfenris2005 01:06 pm UTC 04/22/08 |
| I think you get confused with same chord progressions meaning the song is a copy? Millions of songs have the same chord progressions, but it doesn't make them a copy. There are only a limited amount of chords in any one key and therefore impossible for all songs to have different progressions/changes. You can inject 'colour' into standard progressions by adding 6th, 7th & 9th notes, and/or different bass lines. The main thing that makes a song different is the melody and of course the lyrics. The melodies in the two verses/choruses and bridge of 'Edging Into Darkness' are (to me) nothing like 'Bad For Good' and 'Bat'. I 'think' the chord progressions in the chorus are the same as the 'god speed' parts in Bad For Good, but not sure about Bat chords in the 'bridge'. In the last section the 'Making Love' piano riff is obviously used but the vocal melody is slightly different. > Re: "Edging Into Darkness". Well, look at it this way. The > first half became the title track on "Bad For Good". The > bridge became the chorus to "Bat Out Of Hell" (I don't > care what anyone else says. I will demonstrate it if I > must) and the rest became "Making Love Out Of Nothing At > All". That either would up or lower the chances of "Edging > Into Darkness" becoming a hit. Either way, it's pretty > interesting. I love "Nocturnally Yours". > > > Why did Ray have more of an issue with Milady, than > > Future...? > > > > If Ray does hold the music rights, and Jim wants to re-use > > stuff, surely they could come to a financial agreement? > > > > I think Ray may be a little too 'precious' over this show, > > which has never really taken off. > > > > It's highly unlikely that TCM will ever see the light of > > day again, and Jim is likely to create something more > > financially rewarding with the music? A win/win for both > > of them? > > > > BTW #1 - I heard someone else took a liberty and re-wrote > > Milady (cough cough) LOL! > > > > BTW #2 - I can see 'Edging Into Darkness' and 'Nocturnally > > Yours' being hits, or at least good album tracks for > > someone. > > > > > > > > > > > There was never any specific argument/debate over "The > > > Future Ain't What It Used To Be". Ray knows about it, > > > certainly, but that wasn't the reason Pandora's Box wasn't > > > released in the US. The real issue was when Jim wanted to > > > reuse the melody for "Milady" (hence "For Sarah".) I > > > believe Jim had to beg Ray for that and Ray gave in. But > > > I'm under the impression that it won't happen again. | |
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