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Wilbury 08:17 am UTC 06/18/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Bull In A China Shop - RadioMaster 06:30 pm UTC 06/17/08 |
| Being the peace-loving (argumentative at times, but peace-loving) guy that I am, I wouldn't hit you. And certainly not in the head. People need their head. But I certainly wouldn't hit you for any of that anyway. Desmond has been and can be a brilliant writer. Your assessment of the guy is spot on I think. But the way I see it, given their respective track records regarding Meat, I'd banish Desmond to the "Devil's Net, that's made up of fire" (whatever the hell that is) long before casting off Dianne Warren. Alive is a pretty great song actually, with a good vocal, and it's STILL not as good as any of Warren's tracks from CHSIB. I think Diane Warren is just a better artist than Desmond, transcending genres more naturally and creating more interesting stuff in more than just the catchy pop outlet. Desmond's attempt at consciously and deliberately trying to "make an epic" song, in his own words, turned out as the craptacular Monster is Loose. It's among the lo-lights of the album! And it ain't epic, it's completely linear, drawn out and bloated. I think I would have enjoyed Bat 3 more if it was "Songs by Diane Warren", produced by Ron Nevison. They've proven themselves more than worthy as far as I'm concerned. > at the risk of having my head smashed: > I dont think that Desmond Child is that bad a > writer....the problem with him is that's hes simply an > awful producer. Much too cheesy and way to much > mainstream-pop. He wrote some nice peaces for Bon Jovi > though (and not to forget Ms. Tyler) that lead me to > believe he can do better than bat3. > > Similar with Diane Warren, she's hit and miss, although > the misses are in the majority. > > Id like to hear the Loaf do a little known piece of hers > called "faith of the heart", which was the title melody > for that awful new star trek offspring a few years ago. > > And, also at the risk of being hit, I think another ALW > number could work quite well, maybe something from the > upcoming phantom 2? > > Regarding Jim: > wouldnt really like to see any of his songs on the album > IF Steinman isnt producing them himself (which is 99.9999% > certain). If there are then Meat Loaf will try badly to > make them sound steinman-esque, which simply has to fail > (see bat3 again). He, and the production team, should > rather use their power to find some kickass songs and > golden them with a superb production. | |
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