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Pudding 02:36 am UTC 08/04/08 |
| In reply to: | re: The Devil's F'n Playground - Smeghead 09:16 pm UTC 08/03/08 |
| > The difference was that was when they decided to become a > band with Jim in charge and planned to release an album At what point did Jim ever become incharge or is this just guesswork? > I meant old to us. They list WPOMBHTM, Still the > Children, Only When I Feel, Not Allowed To love, Always > It's The War... old to us, but technically not a cover > band. Yes technically a cover band since a good 80% plus of the songs they sang are covers of previously released material. You can go to my blog where I uploaded ALL known boots of the OTT & TDE shows with setlists and try and prove me wrong if you like. > It could easily be as Chart friendly as Total Eclipse or > Anything for Love... and Meat was a less known Broadway > Talent when Steinman turned him into a hit. When Meat Loaf was a less known Broadway talent he never sang Anything For Love because it hadn't been written yet. Bat1 never really spawned any hits but the album has sold millions (I think you already know this) AFL became a hit because of the $millions they ploughed into marketting of Bat2 and the fact it's a phenomenal song sung by an already very well known singer. > No, I said it is my theory based on the evidence we have. > And knowing Jim if he had news songs he would be pimping > them instead of pushing Batman and DOTV songs as "new" What evidence? A lack of new songs recorded isn't evidence of a lack of new songs written. > People who've met him say he's fine, but these are his > fans. I met him... he seemed good, but not the same as > pre stroke. I understand he's recovered more than that > since then. I hope it's true. I hope he is playing > again. In fact Ray told me he thought Jim was... I just > won't believe it until I hear some proof. I can't believe > Jim is still recycling so much if he can still compose new > material. > And as for JD... I don't think she would honestly tell us > if Jim were struggling, do you? There's some fans who I wouldn't trust a single word they said, but there's others who I would trust. Since you've pointed out (and I totally agree with you) that little material (old or new) has come from Jim since the strokes, that isn't proof enough Jim hasn't or isn't writing mew material. You might have a point about JD...BUT...there's been no news on Google, so no news is good news in my opinion. > Sounds like you are the one speaking from bias with no > proof. Jim was, at one point, really behind TDE and > pushing it very hard... and I don't think Jim thought he > was wasting anything on Rob... to be honest Jim doesn't > have the clout to choose his singers. He didn't want to > give Read Em And Weep to Manilow, but it was the biggest > name he could sell the song to. Unfortunately Jim's day > has passed in the Music biz... at least for now. If you mean I'm speaking from bias because I don't think Rob Evan is all he's cracked up to be, then you are correct. Since TDE has come to nothing and it appears Rob Evan isn't going to be releasing any new songs by Jim anytime this decade, then the faith Jim had in Rob and his talent obviously showed that Rob wasn't worth the gamble. > I think this is the only thing Jim can get backing on. No > one wants to give Jim another shot at an album or a > Brodway show. Bat is a hit so they are willing to take a > chance on it as a West End Musical... maybe. There's a tonne of stuff Jim could be doing to get his music out there and I've said it many times before, Jim is surrounded by talented people but I don't think have Jims best interests at heart. > I love Jim, I think he is the greatest composer that has > ever lived, but I'm just looking at things honestly. > Whistle and DOTV were flops in the states, he can't get a > backing. He has a reputation in music that no one wants > to work with him. He hasn't written anything new that > anyone can prove since Warner shut down Batman. It is > sad. I hope Bat is a success for him... more importantly > I hope it is an artistic success more than I hope it is a > financial one. But I'm not going to be a fanboy who > believes he is furiously writing new music. His posts > basically talked about how he could recycle all of his old > songs and shoehorn them into Bat Musical. Hmmm good points, but artistic versus financial success is a tough call. Although I'd prefer both, financial success can give Jim freedom to be artistic and persue other projects. I don't think Jim's writing furiously, but I do think he's writing. Didn't he claim a while back (post-stroke) that he's writing one new song a week for this Biker Mice Of The Round Table, or whatever the hell it's called? | |
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