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re: Maybe!

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Vin 06:41 pm UTC 09/03/08
In reply to: re: Maybe! - Smeghead 06:35 pm UTC 09/03/08

Right. So, the rights COULD be licensed from Jim himself; not that he would likely allow this since he hasn't put his own version out in the U.S. yet.

> Whoever owns the right to a song has first publication
> rights. In this case Jim. After it has been released in
> a country anybody can license a cover of the song. That's
> my understanding as it was explained to me my people in
> the industry. I think it is stupid. I think whoever
> holds a copyright should have complete control over who
> can and who can't use a song... But since Jim has not
> released Safe Sex in America he holds first publication
> rights and nobody can release it in America until Jim
> does... even though it has been performed on stage in
> America by TDE and you can import it on Pandora's Box. It
> is because of this law that Meat was able to ruin all the
> Steinman covers on Bat 3. It is why he performed Only
> When I Feel on Tour... but when it came time for the Album
> he could only release Break It because Jim had already
> released Break It on the Wuthering Heights album but Jim
> would not give him the rights to use Only When I Feel.
> Meat told me that the people on Bat 3 (My guess is
> Desmond) were urging him to just go ahead and record What
> Party Of My Body Hurts the Most and release it even
> without permission from Jim, but he didn't want to take
> the chance. Apparently Jim gave him permission to use
> Seize The Night and Cry To Heaven.
>
> > Does that mean the license to use it can not be obtained
> > from Jim, or whomever legally controls the song? Surely
> > the song exists, and SOMEBODY has the authority to allow
> > its use, for a fee.
> >
> > > Safe Sex cannot be licensed in the US as it hasn't had a
> > > US release.
> > >
> > > > Clearly they are existing; you can't license songs that
> > > > don't exist. At least, I don't think you can. And if Jim
> > > > were writing / had written specifically for this, it
> > > > wouldn't technically be "licensing." But I digress..
> > > >
> > > > I wonder what songs they might license that would fit
> > > > something like this? "Original Sin," perhaps? "SAFE
> > > > SEX????" If there's a big number for the "Ellen Aim"
> > > > character, the Pandora's Box stuff is probably the best
> > > > fit. Or maybe a rocked up verison of AKIATTTW???
> > > >
> > > > I notice the film's poster features the tag line "Believe
> > > > in Your Demons." That would make a great title for a
> > > > Steinsong; sounds very much like a line Jim would use. If
> > > > only...
> > > >
> > > > > They licensed two songs. I'll bet you a week's salary
> > > > > they are existing songs. Jim hasn't written two brand new
> > > > > songs for a Streets sequel.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe two....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You know where the proof is ;o)


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