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Marvello 06:10 pm UTC 09/12/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Streets Of Fire & Road To hell - wordnix 04:35 pm UTC 09/11/08 |
| Damn fine idea about the TDE Nowhere Fast. Hi cynthia, how did Michael pare react when approached for the film, was he pleased to reprise the roll, did he feel the SOF story unfinished as well? > Thank you very much, ma'am. I'm pleased to see your direct > addressing of this matter. I'd be glad to see the film > when it comes out and judge it on its own merits. Also, > this may be a bit much to ask, but Jim has recorded a new > version of "Nowhere Fast" with his band the Dream Engine. > It's available on their MySpace (link below) and may well > fit in? > > > Hello. Please allow me to set the record straight. > > > > Albert Pyun and I have never claimed that 'Road to Hell' > > is a sequel to "Streets of Fire". We have no control over > > the claims of others. Long ago, Albert and I disagreed > > about the ending of 'Streets Of Fire'. He thought the > > ending was romantic and I thought it was tragic. Our > > disagreement became the inspiration for 'Road to Hell'. I > > wanted to show Albert what can happen when a soldier turns > > his back on true love. > > > > We both wanted to see Michael Pare` return to his iconic > > roots with characters like Tom and Eddie in a film > > reminiscent of both of those films as well as the early > > noir thrillers. > > > > We are hoping to get John Cafferty to sing two of the > > original songs for Road (Mr. Cafferty, if you read this, > > please contact me) but that does not make Road a sequel to > > "Eddie and the Cruisers". We are also trying to locate > > Chris Rea to license his song "Road to Hell" (Mr. Rea or > > his people, please contact me) > > > > And yes, we are licensing Jim Steinman's songs, "Tonight > > is What it Means to be Young" and "No Where Fast" for > > Road. Albert has carried Jim Steinman's songs around the > > world for 24 years and he's thrilled to be able to include > > them in his in his movie. > > > > Hopefully, you will see the film and decide for yourself > > whether or not Road to Hell stands on it's own. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Cynthia Curnan > > > > > I would welcome a discussion with her. I'm not arguing > > > with you about whether or not a sequel can have > > > similarities, but what you seem to miss in my post is that > > > initially this wasn't even advertised as a sequel! This > > > was advertised as a completely original film "inspired by > > > films such as" SOF, a claim of originality which everyone > > > could tell by looking at the site was utter bollocks > > > because the design and the characters, etc., sounded like > > > pages right out of SOF. > > > > > > When mainstream Net news sources picked it up, then (and > > > only then) did the word of it being a sequel to SOF came > > > out. I assume they were trying to avoid some sort of legal > > > trouble. But now the way things are stacking up similarity > > > wise, down to the use of two songs in the soundtrack that > > > would no doubt fit in at the same dramatic points in the > > > film, I repeat that unless they did get permission and > > > this is some sort of authorized sequel, then Walter Hill > > > and whoever else worked on the film has every right to > > > sue. > > > > > > I know the saying "Innocent till proven guilty," and I > > > understand that, but the way they went about this gradual > > > release of information smells fishy, hence my skepticism. > > > You're free to have your opinion, I'm free to have mine. > > > Live and let live. Let's leave it at that, eh? > > > > > > > > > > Oh right so a sequel according to you must have no > > > > similarities, hmm, you could argue that some of the most > > > > famous sequels are just ripoffs of the original, > > > > Magnificent 7, Lethel weapon, Harry Potter for example. > > > > I don't know about your claims, i first visited the site > > > > when someone posted a link here a coupla months ago, the > > > > story outline was posted on the website at that time and > > > > apart from the names i think it is a "new" story. > > > > Hopefully if Cynthia Curnan comes on the board she will > > > > alay your fears, but then again the negativity that is > > > > prevelent here may scare her away. > > > > > > > > > You have your opinion, I'll have mine. But I think mine is > > > > > borne out by a few things: > > > > > > > > > > -- When the site first came out, "Road to Hell" was touted > > > > > as an original film "inspired by" SOF. > > > > > -- When people started making noise about all the > > > > > similarities between them, then it was mentioned as a > > > > > sequel. > > > > > -- Now the similarities are piling up at such an alarming > > > > > rate I'm waiting to hear when they start to cry "remake." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Walter Hill and other members of the SOF team have > > > > > given their permission, I'd like to see it, and if I am > > > > > provided with it, I willingly will retract anything I've > > > > > said. Till then, I stand firm that someone's ass is gonna > > > > > get sued and very soon. > > > > > > I don't think it's ripped off/influenced by, it's a bloody > > > > > > follow up, have you missed the point? > > > > > > It's the story of what happened to Cody & McCoy years > > > > > > after the events in SOF, A SEQUEL, albeit produced by > > > > > > different people, what is that so strange, or have you > > > > > > TOTALLY missed the point. > > > > > > For example ALL the Alien films had pretty much a > > > > > > different production team, or do you class all those > > > > > > sequels as a ripoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not worried about the songs, they got relevant > > > > > > > permission for those by interview account, but everything > > > > > > > else that seems ripped off from (excuse me...influenced > > > > > > > by) "Streets of Fire" does give one pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do WE know for sure that the relevent permissions have not > > > > > > > > been obtained, after all they ARE licensing the 2 songs in > > > > > > > > the correct manner. So maybe we should assume that they > > > > > > > > have been sought and obtained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean to discourage the makers of RTH, but they do > > > > > > > > > realize that Walter Hill has considerable grounds with > > > > > > > > > which to sue them for copyright infringement at this > > > > > > > > > point, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the release this autumn of RTH, i'd like to ask Jim > > > > > > > > > > about the song Nowhere Fast. > > > > > > > > > > As we all know theres the film version and Meatloafs > > > > > > > > > > version, around the time of release i remember reading an > > > > > > > > > > article that said that the original version was given to > > > > > > > > > > Meatloaf and a rewrite of the song was done for the film, > > > > > > > > > > i'd like to know > > > > > > > > > > 1- Was the meatloaf version originally intended for the > > > > > > > > > > film? > > > > > > > > > > 2- If it was, who decided it wasn't suitable, you or the > > > > > > > > > > film company? > > > > > > > > > > 3- If it was your decision, what was it about the original > > > > > > > > > > version that made you consider a rewrite? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i prefer the SOF version, but the above > > > > > > > > > > questions have had me wondering for years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On a final note i've been in contact with RTH screenwriter > > > > > > > > > > Cynthia Curnan who's in the process of registering for the > > > > > > > > > > Rockman board. > > > > > > > > > > | |
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