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wordnix 07:13 pm UTC 09/12/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Streets Of Fire & Road To hell - Marvello 06:10 pm UTC 09/12/08 |
| This is where I point out part of her post (which answered my personal questions): Albert Pyun and I have never claimed that 'Road to Hell' is a sequel to "Streets of Fire". We have no control ovr the claims of others. > Damn fine idea about the TDE Nowhere Fast. > > Hi cynthia, how did Michael pare react when approached for > the film, was he pleased to reprise the roll, did he feel > the SOF story unfinished as well? > > > Thank you very much, ma'am. I'm pleased to see your direct > > addressing of this matter. I'd be glad to see the film > > when it comes out and judge it on its own merits. Also, > > this may be a bit much to ask, but Jim has recorded a new > > version of "Nowhere Fast" with his band the Dream Engine. > > It's available on their MySpace (link below) and may well > > fit in? > > > > > Hello. Please allow me to set the record straight. > > > > > > Albert Pyun and I have never claimed that 'Road to Hell' > > > is a sequel to "Streets of Fire". We have no control over > > > the claims of others. Long ago, Albert and I disagreed > > > about the ending of 'Streets Of Fire'. He thought the > > > ending was romantic and I thought it was tragic. Our > > > disagreement became the inspiration for 'Road to Hell'. I > > > wanted to show Albert what can happen when a soldier turns > > > his back on true love. > > > > > > We both wanted to see Michael Pare` return to his iconic > > > roots with characters like Tom and Eddie in a film > > > reminiscent of both of those films as well as the early > > > noir thrillers. > > > > > > We are hoping to get John Cafferty to sing two of the > > > original songs for Road (Mr. Cafferty, if you read this, > > > please contact me) but that does not make Road a sequel to > > > "Eddie and the Cruisers". We are also trying to locate > > > Chris Rea to license his song "Road to Hell" (Mr. Rea or > > > his people, please contact me) > > > > > > And yes, we are licensing Jim Steinman's songs, "Tonight > > > is What it Means to be Young" and "No Where Fast" for > > > Road. Albert has carried Jim Steinman's songs around the > > > world for 24 years and he's thrilled to be able to include > > > them in his in his movie. > > > > > > Hopefully, you will see the film and decide for yourself > > > whether or not Road to Hell stands on it's own. > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Cynthia Curnan > > > > > > > I would welcome a discussion with her. I'm not arguing > > > > with you about whether or not a sequel can have > > > > similarities, but what you seem to miss in my post is that > > > > initially this wasn't even advertised as a sequel! This > > > > was advertised as a completely original film "inspired by > > > > films such as" SOF, a claim of originality which everyone > > > > could tell by looking at the site was utter bollocks > > > > because the design and the characters, etc., sounded like > > > > pages right out of SOF. > > > > > > > > When mainstream Net news sources picked it up, then (and > > > > only then) did the word of it being a sequel to SOF came > > > > out. I assume they were trying to avoid some sort of legal > > > > trouble. But now the way things are stacking up similarity > > > > wise, down to the use of two songs in the soundtrack that > > > > would no doubt fit in at the same dramatic points in the > > > > film, I repeat that unless they did get permission and > > > > this is some sort of authorized sequel, then Walter Hill > > > > and whoever else worked on the film has every right to > > > > sue. > > > > > > > > I know the saying "Innocent till proven guilty," and I > > > > understand that, but the way they went about this gradual > > > > release of information smells fishy, hence my skepticism. > > > > You're free to have your opinion, I'm free to have mine. > > > > Live and let live. Let's leave it at that, eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh right so a sequel according to you must have no > > > > > similarities, hmm, you could argue that some of the most > > > > > famous sequels are just ripoffs of the original, > > > > > Magnificent 7, Lethel weapon, Harry Potter for example. > > > > > I don't know about your claims, i first visited the site > > > > > when someone posted a link here a coupla months ago, the > > > > > story outline was posted on the website at that time and > > > > > apart from the names i think it is a "new" story. > > > > > Hopefully if Cynthia Curnan comes on the board she will > > > > > alay your fears, but then again the negativity that is > > > > > prevelent here may scare her away. > > > > > > > > > > > You have your opinion, I'll have mine. But I think mine is > > > > > > borne out by a few things: > > > > > > > > > > > > -- When the site first came out, "Road to Hell" was touted > > > > > > as an original film "inspired by" SOF. > > > > > > -- When people started making noise about all the > > > > > > similarities between them, then it was mentioned as a > > > > > > sequel. > > > > > > -- Now the similarities are piling up at such an alarming > > > > > > rate I'm waiting to hear when they start to cry "remake." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Walter Hill and other members of the SOF team have > > > > > > given their permission, I'd like to see it, and if I am > > > > > > provided with it, I willingly will retract anything I've > > > > > > said. Till then, I stand firm that someone's ass is gonna > > > > > > get sued and very soon. > > > > > > > I don't think it's ripped off/influenced by, it's a bloody > > > > > > > follow up, have you missed the point? > > > > > > > It's the story of what happened to Cody & McCoy years > > > > > > > after the events in SOF, A SEQUEL, albeit produced by > > > > > > > different people, what is that so strange, or have you > > > > > > > TOTALLY missed the point. > > > > > > > For example ALL the Alien films had pretty much a > > > > > > > different production team, or do you class all those > > > > > > > sequels as a ripoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not worried about the songs, they got relevant > > > > > > > > permission for those by interview account, but everything > > > > > > > > else that seems ripped off from (excuse me...influenced > > > > > > > > by) "Streets of Fire" does give one pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do WE know for sure that the relevent permissions have not > > > > > > > > > been obtained, after all they ARE licensing the 2 songs in > > > > > > > > > the correct manner. So maybe we should assume that they > > > > > > > > > have been sought and obtained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean to discourage the makers of RTH, but they do > > > > > > > > > > realize that Walter Hill has considerable grounds with > > > > > > > > > > which to sue them for copyright infringement at this > > > > > > > > > > point, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the release this autumn of RTH, i'd like to ask Jim > > > > > > > > > > > about the song Nowhere Fast. > > > > > > > > > > > As we all know theres the film version and Meatloafs > > > > > > > > > > > version, around the time of release i remember reading an > > > > > > > > > > > article that said that the original version was given to > > > > > > > > > > > Meatloaf and a rewrite of the song was done for the film, > > > > > > > > > > > i'd like to know > > > > > > > > > > > 1- Was the meatloaf version originally intended for the > > > > > > > > > > > film? > > > > > > > > > > > 2- If it was, who decided it wasn't suitable, you or the > > > > > > > > > > > film company? > > > > > > > > > > > 3- If it was your decision, what was it about the original > > > > > > > > > > > version that made you consider a rewrite? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i prefer the SOF version, but the above > > > > > > > > > > > questions have had me wondering for years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On a final note i've been in contact with RTH screenwriter > > > > > > > > > > > Cynthia Curnan who's in the process of registering for the > > > > > > > > > > > Rockman board. > > > > > > > > > > > | |
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