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wordnix 03:52 am UTC 10/10/08 |
| In reply to: | re: Meat writing Bat 1+2 claim evidence - Smeghead 01:52 am UTC 10/10/08 |
| That the project exists at all, by all accounts, is due in equal part to Jim's songwriting, and Meat's persistent demand that Jim write an album for him. The material Jim chose had nothing to do with the fact that sooner or later Jim would probably have done something with Meat to shut him up. > The concept for Bat out of Hel is: Jim takes three songs > he wrote for Neverland, takes another song based on > Neverland, another song he wrote awhile ago that DeShields > apparently sung, and add 2 more songs and have Meat sing > them. Seriously, there isn't a "concept" to Bat Out Of > Hell. It is Songs written by Jim Steinman (many for > projects Meat had nothing to do with) sung by Meat Loaf. > > > Point 12 definitely is plausible and could have some merit > > to it. But yeah, 13 and 17 are total bollocks. > > > > > Point 12 I can understand and basing on that Meat may have > > > had a (slight if any) claim on the Bat trademark or at > > > least using it for Bat 3 only if he wished imo. > > > > > > However points 13 and 17 are mostly a load of shit. > > > > > > > Following on from a conversation below and just to prove > > > > Smeg (the bastard) right...yet again(curse him) this is > > > > Meats writing claim for Bat1 and Bat 2. > > > > > > > > Click link below for full court papers and it's on page 10 > > > > of 17. > > > > > > > > The Plaintiff being Meat Loaf and the Defendant being Jim > > > > > > > > 12. The concept of the Bat Out Of Hell album resulted from > > > > a joint creative effort between Plaintiff and Defendant > > > > Steinman. > > > > > > > > 13. Plaintiff was the artist, singer and Performer for Bat > > > > Out Of Hell. His role included providing portions of the > > > > lyrics, as well as developing the overall presentation of > > > > the songs. Plaintiff performed all the songs on the album, > > > > and was and is the sole user of the BAT OUT OF HELL mark. > > > > > > > > 17. Following the success of Bat Out Of Hell 1, a Bat Out > > > > Of Hell 2 album was released in September 1993. Defendant > > > > Steinman wrote the songs and produced the album. Plaintiff > > > > provided most of the lyrics, singing, performing and > > > > developing the overall presentation of the songs. | |
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